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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kievan Mereel wrote:
If we're including the duster as an optional item, the oval belt buckle should be an option as well.



I respectfully disagree due to two reasons.

Firstly, we never see the lower bodies of the men with the oval belt buckles in the movie. I have also not been able to spot their lower bodies in behind the scenes material. Due to that, we do not know what kind of boots or pants they wear in the movie.

Secondly, there is a photo of General Jan Dodonna and General Baccam Grafis in the Rogue One visual guide. You can clearly see that they wear the oval belt buckle, but they do not wear the low boots with anklet cuffs. They wear brown riding boots. If they wear riding boots, they cannot wear the cargo pants because they would not fit into the boots. I am of the opinion that all characters with the oval belt buckles wear the same outfit as General Dodonna and General Baccam. So they would not fit into this CS as it is right now.

I am also pretty sure that Dodonna and Baccam as well as the other Generals with the oval belt buckles, wear the same outfit as the Rogue One version of Captain Antilles minus the RFT helmet but plus the white duster. It is more or less the same outfit that Dodonna and the other Generals wear in ANH. The minor color differences between the R1 version and ANH version of General Dodonna and the other Generals do not really justify adding their costume to this CS. Especially if we do not have enough visual references from the movie Rogue One.

Photo from Star Wars Rogue One - The Ultimate Visual Guide page 48

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's some good reasoning and evidence for there to be two different Rogue One High Command costume standards: one for the kneeboots and duster, and the one we're currently discussing with the fatigue pants and ankle boots.

It does bring up the question if this standard is too complex and it should be split up into three? The iconic aspects of a costume usually are what is worn on the torso. The Yavin Operations officer is a different standard than the Signals Tech even though the only difference is a jacket.

Should these be split up into:
* Bandwin Cor style
* General Draven style
* General Dodonna style

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kievan Mereel wrote:
That's some good reasoning and evidence for there to be two different Rogue One High Command costume standards: one for the kneeboots and duster, and the one we're currently discussing with the fatigue pants and ankle boots.

It does bring up the question if this standard is too complex and it should be split up into three? The iconic aspects of a costume usually are what is worn on the torso. The Yavin Operations officer is a different standard than the Signals Tech even though the only difference is a jacket.

Should these be split up into:
* Bandwin Cor style
* General Draven style
* General Dodonna style?


If you peek back at the beginning of the conversations, you'll see the reasoning. The version with the riding boots and oval buckle is already covered by the ANH style standards.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the few Rogue One costumes that was close enough to ANH to keep the existing standard! I have been working on this costume off and on since last year so I have an interest in the standard. Sorry for the confusion, carry on.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kievan Mereel wrote:
One of the few Rogue One costumes that was close enough to ANH to keep the existing standard! I have been working on this costume off and on since last year so I have an interest in the standard. Sorry for the confusion, carry on.


It was a good question! Also, yay! I can't wait to see your costume. Moar commanders! Very Happy

(And actually, you got me thinking- when we update that standard to the new format, we need to give options for the yoke color.)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RebelLady wrote:
Kievan Mereel wrote:
One of the few Rogue One costumes that was close enough to ANH to keep the existing standard! I have been working on this costume off and on since last year so I have an interest in the standard. Sorry for the confusion, carry on.


It was a good question! Also, yay! I can't wait to see your costume. Moar commanders! Very Happy

(And actually, you got me thinking- when we update that standard to the new format, we need to give options for the yoke color.)


I think giving options for the yoke color in the General Jan Dodonna and the Rebel Officers (Battle of Yavin) CS is a great idea. It would be the easiest solution since the only differences between Rogue One and ANH version are the color of the yoke, the rank badge and in some cases the color of the shirt.
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