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Vector design flight suits, Revised Proposal

 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:50 am    Post subject: Vector design flight suits, Revised Proposal Reply with quote

I have created a page in the RL forum to generate interest in creating visual aides for the various pilot jump suits.

The jump suits will become vector images so there can more accurate measuring when the flight suits are preparing for fabrication and sewing.

Below is the proposal.

http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105822
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am wondering if there is still an interest in having a vector database to make flight suits.

I understand pilots want to get all hoses, vests, and etc right. The most important thing to get right is the flight suit itself. I am a vector graphic designer so my designs might look ridged, but they serve as a reference in case a seamstress needs to do a repeat order of flight suits.

This way it will be easier for him or her to get a blueprint of the flight suit and then create the same flight suit design, with proper measurements easily displayed on the blueprints.

I feel this is a long over due problem that needs to be addressed and approved.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone is against the idea, I just don't see as much enthusiasm as you for doing the actual work.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kman wrote:
I don't think anyone is against the idea, I just don't see as much enthusiasm as you for doing the actual work.


I have been noticing that.

This is pretty important step in the costume process.

I might need some help to 'jazz' the post up a bit.

I make things work... other people can make things look pretty.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone has ideas to make the vector flight suit more appealing to members. I am all ears!

My design sense is more rooted in 80s-00's design trends. I have being a professional design since the 90's. It has been an uphill quest to find what 'clicks' with the younger generation.

Onward and upward?!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyongKai wrote:
If anyone has ideas to make the vector flight suit more appealing to members. I am all ears!

My design sense is more rooted in 80s-00's design trends. I have being a professional design since the 90's. It has been an uphill quest to find what 'clicks' with the younger generation.

Onward and upward?!
Have you tried shooting a message over to the RLSC CO? Maybe he can help "advertise" for you? Otherwise things have been pretty quiet in the RLSC, both here on the forum and in the Facebook group.

I'm not very good at drawing things or creating vector images so I'm pretty much useless for that sort of stuff...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we are working on the new standards formats. Any input should go to the specific standards in this forum.

I can tell you the goal is accuracy, not standardization. A fan made design based on one on-screen pilot may not be the best way to depict the variety of pilots or RL members.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagil M'gar wrote:
we are working on the new standards formats. Any input should go to the specific standards in this forum.

I can tell you the goal is accuracy, not standardization. A fan made design based on one on-screen pilot may not be the best way to depict the variety of pilots or RL members.


My goal is both accuracy and standardization, but given some flexibility to the different costumer.

Where can i submit my proposals. I haven't heard from anyone on to where i can post.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post in the thread for OT pilots.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagil M'gar wrote:
Post in the thread for OT pilots.


I posted the threat in the x-wing old trilogy (ot) Thread. Is this the correct listing?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2020 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a vector image? I still use a pencil and ruler to make my patterns Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Philonius wrote:
What's a vector image? I still use a pencil and ruler to make my patterns Smile


It means using mathematical computation programs, such as AutoCAD and Adobe Illustrator.

Illustrator is a modern approach to pencil and ruler. I was one of last classes in the 1990s to do the old drafting method. I still do this when i dont use illustrator. ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it's worth, AutoCAD and Adobe Illustrator are only useful if you actually have the programs and the ability to use them, modify the pattern to your size, and then have the ability to print them out correctly.

While having a starting pattern is useful, frankly, as someone who is multi-sized on most commercial sewing patterns, I'm still going to re-hand-draw most things when I'm sewing a costume. Pencil and paper is an easier and faster way to modify a pattern while sewing. And "standardization" is completely useless when you need to do adjustments to make things actually fit correctly.

What is far more useful is knowing the proportions of things. For example, if I know that a typical Jedi obi is three times the width of the belt, I can pick the belt that fits correctly and make an obi that looks right on me based on that measurement.


(Besides, over-standardization is actually one of my problems in finding a flight suit for Blue Squadron, as no commercial makers currently have women's sizing, which is a problem as I can't fit into their men's sizes and I can't find the right fabric to just make my own. Tall thin men are not the "standard" human. Women are not just small men, either. :/ )
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jabari wrote:
For what it's worth, AutoCAD and Adobe Illustrator are only useful if you actually have the programs and the ability to use them, modify the pattern to your size, and then have the ability to print them out correctly.

While having a starting pattern is useful, frankly, as someone who is multi-sized on most commercial sewing patterns, I'm still going to re-hand-draw most things when I'm sewing a costume. Pencil and paper is an easier and faster way to modify a pattern while sewing. And "standardization" is completely useless when you need to do adjustments to make things actually fit correctly.

What is far more useful is knowing the proportions of things. For example, if I know that a typical Jedi obi is three times the width of the belt, I can pick the belt that fits correctly and make an obi that looks right on me based on that measurement.
(Besides, over-standardization is actually one of my problems in finding a flight suit for Blue Squadron, as no commercial makers currently have women's sizing, which is a problem as I can't fit into their men's sizes and I can't find the right fabric to just make my own. Tall thin men are not the "standard" human. Women are not just small men, either. :/ )


I understand your situation. Illustrator can help adjust the shape and length of each individual's costume. I have difficulty putting things to words on subject i have limited knowledge, such as sewing and fabric patterns.

I would like these vector designs to adapt to each individual's body dimensions. I just need help on how to put this in clear understandable writing.
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