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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look like it will be a very comfortable costume to wear. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Lora Skywalker"]It does look like it will be a very comfortable costume to wear. Smile[/quote]

Haha! That's partly how I pick my costumes!
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a lot more blouse fabric research.

I found the perfect fabric in 2 places, ONLY one is in Germany and it would cost a ton and the other, doesn't have enough left! In fact, I just checked and they were sold out. UGH!
Still here's a link and photo of what I think is the perfect fabric.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/617263096/05-m-kokka-double-gauze-bordeaux?ref=landingpage_similar_listing_top-3



Since I can't get that fabric, I narrowed it down to these two. The first one is lighter rose-colored, which it looks like in a lot of our still photos of the actual costume. But on screen, and natural lighting the blouse is darker. So I have orderd the second one listed and will start on the blouse when I get it.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/669228683/organic-cotton-doublegauze-muslin?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_low-low_b-craft_supplies_and_tools-fabric_and_notions-fabric&utm_custom1=e57d6e3c-6b79-47f7-967d-880eb4b1384a&utm_content=go_6721326405_86204092784_388342220597_aud-496171762479:pla-295916403786_c__669228683&utm_custom2=6721326405&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhtT1BRCiARIsAGlY51KmFMd0q_sf0PRY3_F_AFTpLQYNHComxWBr_Szvga2CNCiiQy-h3YMaAvnmEALw_wcB



https://www.fabricwholesaledirect.com/products/cotton-gauze-fabric?variant=29178845036659

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT!!! 7/2/2020
I finally figured out the belt. It is NOT with tubing or slide buckles, but I’m leaving all the belt posts so you can see how changes progressed.

Original post:
I've been fiddling around with hardware and jewelry parts for a few months now and think I finally have a way to make the belt. Not perfect, but it should work.
There are links here are for the parts I bought to make the jewelry/link part of the belt. (The buckle and leather and unseen parts of the belt will come later.)

bra buckle:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K21XG8R/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

plastic tubing:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E6BD0G0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

brass sheeting:
https://www.acehardware.com/departments/hardware/metal-sheets-and-rods/sheet-metal/5686720

I cut 1 and 5/8" pieces of tubing and slit them lengthwise. The split tube then fits around one side of two links and joins them together. It's fairly strong. Then I am wrapping brass sheeting around the tubing.

The pictures show just the raw elements and very beginning of this process. The finished product will be more tarnished looking. (For some reason all my photos won't link. I'll try separate posts for the ones that dropped off this post.)

Tubing:



[img]https://i.imgur.com/gxgb3qf.jpg?1[/img]



[img]https://i.imgur.com/gxgb3qf.jpg?1[/img]

Links:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/EelEg4p.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/EelEg4p.jpg?1[/img]

Brass sheeting:





The brass sheeting is loose in this photo. I haven't perfected how to tighten it yet, but it looks good.



Here's an idea of what a single run at about 8", 10 links, would look like.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Y64eSbk.jpg?1[/img]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Y64eSbk.jpg?1[/img]



I think that once the buckle is added, I'll only need 6-8 links each run.



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2020 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my photos from imgur just won't stick!
here is a link to my account so you see the rest of the belt making photos.

https://doinit4carrie.imgur.com/all
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently pulling my hair out over this belt!

I thought I had it figured out, but there are a couple of problems.

The brass sheeting is very difficult to roll down tightly and keep together. Placing it over the plastic tubing makes that piece look fat like big macaroni. I have experimented with just the brass, that doesn't work because it won't tighten enough to keep from having a gap. If I compress it tighter it just wraps around the links and doesn't create a tube.

I then decided to use metal tape around the plastic tubing. This seems to work. I had silver on hand, and some gold spray paint, so I painted over the tape to get an idea. It looks good but rubs off too easily. I'm thinking of trying gold tape with dulling spray and then brush with a black wash to get the patina look.

But the size of the tubing is bugging me too. If I get a thinner tube, the inside diameter is not enough and then the whole thing flattens out when trying to span over 2 links. Does this matter? Yes.

Then there is a matter of the size of the slide/link. The 1.5" looks good sitting in front of you, but add another set below and this makes for a very wide belt. But maybe that's okay. It's decorative. It also may just look a little big on me because I'm 5'1". With this in mind, I tried a shorter length slide/link, 1". But it's looking too square and frankly not so impressive as the larger one, even with two sets running one on top of the other. I also tried the original oval slide buckle idea with the metal tape covered tubing. It kind of falls into the same unimpressive looking category.

Conclusion? The larger links and larger tubing (that won't flatten out), covered with metal tape is probably best as a base. The links will get sanded and dulled and sprayed with a dull gray. I'll use gold tape over plastic tubing, either sanded or lay a dulling spray over them. Then the black spotting and wash for a patina.

Why plastic tubing? There are no brass beads or tubing available that are slit along the length to roll around the link sides. That's why I tried the sheeting.
I suppose a jeweler with the right tools could make the right wire for links and make the brass beads. But I am not a jeweler, so this is my best shot.

https://imgur.com/a/KiGCUYb
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE ON THE BELT MAKING...
Forget most of what I posted previously, it's not working!

I'm currently trying other types of bendable wire and small hard plastic tubing and am still looking for just the right brass tubing that would work.

Part of my problem is not having the right tools. I've talked with a few of my base friends who are good at this sort of thing and we are working on it.

In other news, I'm still waiting on the shirt material to show up. I ordered it just as the supplier was slowing down their delivery schedule because of COVID.

Meanwhile, I did make a Force Ghost Leia. Not approvable, but nice to have.

More soon, I hope.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I DID IT!! FIGURED OUT THE BELT!!! IT'S LOOKING GOOD!

So forget everything I suggested for the belt before.

I had success using 1/4" brass pipe and 18 gauge aluminum wire.

I bought this pipe cutter:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07LBMQN2Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And I bought 3 packs of this brass pipe:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z98SQC2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought my wire at ACE. Hillman brand. See photos. Amazon has wire, but the spools were for a lot more than I needed.

So I have some really nice looking pieces ready to make a whole belt. I need to get the buckle 3D printed and finished. I also need to get the leather needed to attached the metal parts of the belt to the buckle and for the back, under the cloak.

I'm really excited. It feels like a turning point!

Here are pics of the materials and how I made the metal parts of the belt.
(Some of my pics won't post, don't know why, so here is the link to my photo imgur page. Look in the album labeled "BELT".)

https://doinit4carrie.imgur.com/all

To make this part of the belt you will need to:
- cut 1.5" pieces of 1/4' diameter brass pipe.
- Cut several 4" pieces of aluminum wire.
- wire cutters
- needlenose pliers

(You need to estimate the length you will need from about your belly button to your side/waistline. The width of each "link" is about 3/8" wide. Add it all up and divide to estimate how long to make it and how many pieces of brass you'll need. Make more than you think you need. You may need to make it longer or replace parts. I have a 32" waistline. I used, so far, 14 pieces of 1.5" brass tube for each metal section of the belt. There are 4 sections.)

Once you cut the brass into smaller pieces, start with 1 4" piece of wire inserted into the tube. Center. Bend each end of the wire into right angles. Then hold the end of needlenose pliers closely to the wire near each end of brass tube. Fold the wire down on each end. these will be the top and bottom between each brass tube piece. They should be about 3/8" wide.
Then slip another brass tube onto one end of the cut wire, then slowly, but forcefully guide the rest of the wire into the other end of the tube. square it up using the pliers and by hand. Keep going by inserting another wire into the same brass pipe you just finished.



[img]https://i.imgur.com/mFeNUcG.jpg?1[/img]



[img]https://i.imgur.com/MKJAZFv.jpg?1[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/DC3YZho.jpg?1[/img]







I also experimented with some treatment to age the brass. I used a little black acrylic paint. Just barely brushed a little on then blotted with a paper towel. I also put a clear Satin varnish on top of that to dull the brass. What do you think? (See below)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I wait for more brass and getting the buckle made for the belt, I'll switch gears to the problem child of this costume - the cloak. Thanks to a member of Bun Squad, I got referred to a costume maker who may be able to make the material. Anticipating that, I started putting together a file of reference pics and my notes for the construction.
I made these detailed sketches this morning.



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The belt is turning out really well- I'm so glad the tubing and tool worked out! For anyone else looking, I posted the Amazon links for them them in the resource thread here:
http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110626&start=30
The second drawing with the collar and shoulder pad is especially clear- that will be very helpful. I recommend waiting just a bit to send seamstresses notes until the standard discussion is completed. The first draft is up in the standards section of this forum, and I know RogueWic noticed a couple of spots where there may be pleats not in the draft or on the drawings above. You should also add your comment about the color range for the tunic/blouse. Please go give input on that thread- the more eyes we have working together, the better and clearer the standard we end up with will be. Smile

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http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113352
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I will add my notes about the blouse color. There really are no other pleats. I'm not great at drawing, but I stood right next to the costume to make those drawings. Should I note that also in the thread?

[quote="RebelLady"]The belt is turning out really well- I'm so glad the tubing and tool worked out!
The second drawing with the collar and shoulder pad is especially clear- that will be very helpful. I recommend waiting just a bit to send seamstresses notes until the standard discussion is completed. The first draft is up in the standards section of this forum, and I know RogueWic noticed a couple of spots where there may be pleats not in the draft or on the drawings above. You should also add your comment about the color range for the tunic/blouse. Please go give input on that thread- the more eyes we have working together, the better and clearer the standard we end up with will be. Smile

Here's the link:
[url]http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113352[/url][/quote]
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