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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your costume looks good. This exactly how I imagined the NPC off-duty pilots would look like in real life.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, let me take an effort at writing a Standard proposal, based on what we know:

CHARACTER DESCRIPTION (Proposed)

Alliance Ground Duty Pilots

Alliance Ground Duty Pilots perform routine flight and flight staff related functions, including flying VIP's and technical teams to remote areas. Ground Duty Pilots will use shuttles, U Wing Fighters and utility craft in the performance of their duties.

REQUIRED ITEMS

1. Shirt:
– Long sleeved tan, khaki, beige or coyote colored shirt with a collar ending in two points.

– Front has a rectangular bib with seams on the bottom and both sides. The bottom seam of the bib is two to three inches above the belt line.

– Double rows of stitching (flat-felled or similar) in each seam is recommended.

– Optional back yoke.

– Worn tucked into the pants.

– The sleeves of the shirt do not have cuffs.

2. Trousers:
BDU-style pants in chocolate brown with cargo pocket on each outer thigh.

- Pant legs are worn inside the boots.

3. Belt:
Tan/Khaki/Coyote brown colored web belt with roll-pin buckle. A British PLCE roll pin belt, which is worn inside out. The belt contains 5 (five) vertical loops for mini-flares on both sides,

- The mini-flares are made of metal or other materials that, when finished, have a metallic silver appearance.

4. Boots:
Below the calf boot with round toe and conservative heel. The boot is leather or leather-like, and normal grain pattern is acceptable.

- Boots has front flaps starting at the top front of the boot, moving down to mid-foot. Flaps are leather, or leather like and should feature stitches at the edge of the boot. The flaps break at the front of teh boot where the shaft begins.

- The bottom flap of boot has a segmented buckle. The buckle’s bail (wire piece) is attached with a loop of leather or elastic attached to the flap. The ‘box’ parts of the buckle are black and the ‘wire’ parts are metallic.

5. Gloves
Two different style of gloves are seen, either are acceptable.
The firs style of glove is a simple work glove, black in color, with no decorations. The glove is leather, leather like, lycra or other well-fitting material. This glove may feature a simple adjustment cuff with no decoration.

The second glove style are grey, beige or black gauntlet gloves in a heavy fabric, suede, or suede-like material, accurately styled.
- The gauntlet has five to six lines of pleated stitching going all the way around, and the glove has four wider pleats on the top of the hand with the first three pleats that are closest to the fingers being the same size but smaller than the lower pleat, which is wider. A small Velcro strap on the inside top of the wrist behind the thumb is permitted.
- This glove has a small commpad, similar to the Hoth Rebel trooper’s,
- The commpad consists of a white thin rectangular base with teeth on the upper edge, a triangular slope and an orange, red-orange or gold screen or mesh in the center of the slope. The commpad is attached to the gauntlet of the left glove and is positioned with the teeth facing to the wearer’s right.

6 Helmet
Alliance X wing style helmet, in Alliance style helmet markings.
- Helmet has a raised mohawk with front cap, chincup held in place with black elastic strap, amber lens, black edge trim and microphone.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The costume looks nice! Is that a real PLCE belt or a replica? I've been having a hard time finding a PLCE belt that fits us bigger guys...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Alex!
Its a replica, but if you need one I bought a whole roll of the stuff and I can make you one. I have everything on hand. I bought a real one, the largest I could find, and it was kid size. Literally! There really isnt much I can buy and wear besides boots gloves and some pants.

here's the belt, its for the Yavin Comm Tech (Weems).
Lemme know if you want one, I can make it up. the material is CHEAP when you buy by the roll, its just quality time at the sewing machine and I have a roll pin buckle.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The proposed CS looks good. The only thing that I would change is making the helmet optional instead of mandatory.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very good point. I have moved the helmet, the optional shirt back yoke, and the more complicated glove with commpad unit to the optional items for approval area.


CHARACTER DESCRIPTION (Proposed)

Alliance Ground Duty Pilots

Alliance Ground Duty Pilots perform routine flight and flight staff related functions, including flying VIP's and technical teams to remote areas. Ground Duty Pilots will use shuttles, U Wing Fighters and utility craft in the performance of their duties.

REQUIRED ITEMS

1. Shirt:
– Long sleeved tan, khaki, beige or coyote colored shirt with a collar ending in two points.

– Front has a rectangular bib with seams on the bottom and both sides. The bottom seam of the bib is two to three inches above the belt line.

– Double rows of stitching (flat-felled or similar) in each seam is recommended.

– Worn tucked into the pants.

– The sleeves of the shirt do not have cuffs.

2. Trousers:
BDU-style pants in chocolate brown with cargo pocket on each outer thigh.

- Pant legs are worn inside the boots.

3. Belt:
Tan/Khaki/Coyote brown colored web belt with roll-pin buckle. A British PLCE roll pin belt, which is worn inside out. The belt contains 5 (five) vertical loops for mini-flares on both sides,

- The mini-flares are made of metal or other materials that, when finished, have a metallic silver appearance.

4. Boots:
Below the calf boot with round toe and conservative heel. The boot is leather or leather-like, and normal grain pattern is acceptable.

- Boots has front flaps starting at the top front of the boot, moving down to mid-foot. Flaps are leather, or leather like and should feature stitches at the edge of the boot. The flaps break at the front of teh boot where the shaft begins.

- The bottom flap of boot has a segmented buckle. The buckle’s bail (wire piece) is attached with a loop of leather or elastic attached to the flap. The ‘box’ parts of the buckle are black and the ‘wire’ parts are metallic.

5. Gloves
Two different style of gloves are seen, either are acceptable.
The firs style of glove is a simple work glove, black in color, with no decorations. The glove is leather, leather like, lycra or other well-fitting material. This glove may feature a simple adjustment cuff with no decoration.


The Following are optional items. Choose two for approval:

Optional approval item 1:
Helmet
Alliance X wing style helmet, in Alliance style helmet markings.
- Helmet has a raised mohawk with front cap, chincup held in place with black elastic strap, amber lens, black edge trim and microphone.

Optional approval item 2:
Shirt has optional back yoke

Optional approval item 3:
The optional glove style are grey, beige or black gauntlet gloves in a heavy fabric, suede, or suede-like material, accurately styled.
- The gauntlet has five to six lines of pleated stitching going all the way around, and the glove has four wider pleats on the top of the hand with the first three pleats that are closest to the fingers being the same size but smaller than the lower pleat, which is wider. A small Velcro strap on the inside top of the wrist behind the thumb is permitted.
- This glove has a small commpad, similar to the Hoth Rebel trooper’s,
- The commpad consists of a white thin rectangular base with teeth on the upper edge, a triangular slope and an orange, red-orange or gold screen or mesh in the center of the slope. The commpad is attached to the gauntlet of the left glove and is positioned with the teeth facing to the wearer’s right.




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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so its time for a major topic update:

I have spoken with Patrick, our Det CO, and we will need a lot more reference photos of the individual parts of the character, so that the Standard proposal I wrote can be written in the new format.

So, to proceed, we need graphics of:
Front full
Back full
Shirt / tunic
Gloves
Gloves alternate version
Pants
Belt
Belt flares
Helmet
Boots with boot buckles and front pad
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'nott sH'urr wrote:
Thanks Alex!
Its a replica, but if you need one I bought a whole roll of the stuff and I can make you one. I have everything on hand. I bought a real one, the largest I could find, and it was kid size. Literally! There really isnt much I can buy and wear besides boots gloves and some pants.

here's the belt, its for the Yavin Comm Tech (Weems).
Lemme know if you want one, I can make it up. the material is CHEAP when you buy by the roll, its just quality time at the sewing machine and I have a roll pin buckle.

Awesome! I'll definitely have to shoot you a message about this after the holidays. Smile I have a Blue Squadron X-wing suit but can't find a belt for it that will fit me.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a second folder with detailed references for the CS.

https://imgur.com/a/Gfp5xnX
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'nott sH'urr wrote:
Ok, so its time for a major topic update:

I have spoken with Patrick, our Det CO, and we will need a lot more reference photos of the individual parts of the character, so that the Standard proposal I wrote can be written in the new format.


It looks like you're on the right track and have a way forward. If you haven't seen the new format, details can be found here:
http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96547

Let me know if you have questions. I've gone through the new format documents quite a bit as I went to write some Rogue One Pilot standards.

~Christine
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christine
THANK YOU so much for commenting. I know Det business get busy and Staff doesnt see everything (BEEN THERE!!!) but thank you for your reply.
With the new images, I will begin a rewrite to the new format as best as we can get it.


I would really love to see this oddball character become recognized as official.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PArmstr wrote:
I made a second folder with detailed references for the CS.

https://imgur.com/a/Gfp5xnX


Patricia your images are AMAZING.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Th completed proposal is up in the new Standards proposals area.

We need a new images for the back, the best you are able to obtain , to go along with the Front image.

if possible, can you get good left and right side images?

http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1144297#1144297
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I added these screencaps to my Imgur folder and to your CS proposal. It is very difficult to get good references in this game.


Back













Left side












Right side




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