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Mon Mothma - Return of the Jedi

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Mon Mothma - Return of the Jedi Reply with quote

I'm just getting started on this, and I've been looking for reference pictures and such. I was reading the costume standards, and I'm wondering about the necklace.

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Two silver Hana pendant brooches, one at each shoulder with two gray twisted cords draped between them and a silver Hana pendant on a gray twisted double cords.


Now, I'm not sure what a Hana pendant is, but I found the young Mon Mothma in "Dressing a Galaxy" and obtained this to use as a pattern.



The DAG photo clearly shows she is wearing a necklace comprised of three of these medallions: one on each shoulder, and one hanging from the front center of the necklace.

However, on the ROTJ version, it does not appear that she is wearing the same, flat medallion on her shoulders, but instead a round top pin that looks almost like a domed button.



I'm having difficulty seeing the shoulders, does anyone have a better screenshot? (My DVDs are all in storage Crying or Very sad )

I don't want to make the wrong thing... I want to be accurate, but also to meet the costume standards.

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a judge for the Commanders, I will accept anything that is close for those shoulder brooches....or whatever they are called.

Personally, I have never seen a better photo of Mon Mothma than the one you already referenced above....so I don't think you will be able to get any better of a reference on them.

but..
I could be wrong...


You might want to check with a few of the other Mothmas and ask them what they used.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Phyllis. I'm going to try to be screen accurate. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe these pics of my chains pendant combo can help. Btw the pendant of Episode VI is different to that of the young Mon Mothma.



I've used domed silver colored buttons.





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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks awesome, Claudia, thank you so much for posting the pictures.

The button with the cording wrapped around it looks exactly as I was thinking. Your pendant looks very accurate, too.

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Here's my version. I used silver Sculpy clay, or maybe it was Fimo. I used domed buttons with a filagree design for the shoulders. Lots of silver colored (but not glittery silver) cording from the drapery department of Joann's. It doesn't show, but there's a single cord that goes around behind the neck.

I glued the cording and buttons to a circle of plastic. Neodymium magnets are glued to the underside, and washers from the hardware store are sewn into the shoulders.

Make sure the washers cling tightly to the magnets! Not all metal is created equal. I wanted stainless steel washers, but they don't stick very well. So I got the ones that stick best and just hand baste them into the dress so I can remove them for washing.

The chain has a small safety pin at each end that sticks to the magnet. Not the best solution, but I'm still looking for a better way. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:07 pm    Post subject: necklace and broaches Reply with quote

I just noticed this and presume you have it finished. I just redid my shoulder broaches last year to make them more accurate. I found a better reference. If you want to redo them let me know.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is one of those costumes I have thought about making because the character in ROTJ is ...
well..
ahem...
an older lady.....
and there are few of those kinds of costumes to go around...

did any of you ladies start with a commercial pattern and alter it?

what was your fabric of choice?
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not use a pattern. I purchased four yards of 60 inch Pointe cream colored fabric. I folded in lengthwise and made the pleat at the shoulder and put the neck opening then faced it. Leave opening for arms and stitch down the sides. Make the hemline a bit rounded at the side seams. Some have used a choir gown pattern but if you look at screen shots the robe does not have that style. What can I say? I am a purist!

there are three chains holding the pendant hanging down. They are snake chains. I used three and wrapped them around each other. The broach at the shoulder has a red nob at the top, I used sculpy and painted it because I could not find a red jewel for it as my reference shows.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schph Gochi wrote:
this is one of those costumes I have thought about making because the character in ROTJ is ...
well..
ahem...
an older lady.....
and there are few of those kinds of costumes to go around...

did any of you ladies start with a commercial pattern and alter it?

what was your fabric of choice?


I used Sew Classic Linen Look Fabric from Joann. It's lightweight, but a little transparent, so I wear a long half slip underneath. And I made the under shirt from a white t-shirt (sewed black gauze sleeves onto it), so the top is covered, too. I made the undershirt the same way I make Jedi under shirts.
http://grannys-costumes.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-make-jedi-undertunic.html

I used McCall's 4002, View D. (I can't sew without a pattern Shocked, not something this big. I could probably make a pocket LOL ).



I cut the front on the fold, and the back NOT on the fold, the opposite of the pattern.

I had to alter the facings slightly to fit. Not a lot, I just cut the front facing on the fold and rounded it off, and the back facing I added the same seam allownce that I did to the back of the dress.

I sewed the entire side seam, no slits.

I put in a zipper in the back. Enlarged the sleeve openings a little bit, and made them a little longer so there'd be enough to fold up.

Let me know if I can be of any help.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here Marie...I usually have to start out with some sort of pattern as that usually helps me wrap my head around a project...
Where I have sewn a great many things and many costumes, I don't consider myself much of a seamstress....it is usually a trial and error thing...
mostly error...

and thank you for your offer of assistance...
I am going to start looking around for the fabrics and bits and pieces...
and...
a wig

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the Ponte because it does not need a slip under it.

The sleeves are very large and that is why I just folded the fabric lengthwise in half and located center for my neck hole then make the deep fold that forms the 'draping'. I stitched the edge of the fold and then along the sides. When the robe is laid out it is basically a rectangle. It hangs better with the hem slightly rounded.

Try Beauty Trends wigs for the correct length and color. That is where I got my wig. Cream colored low heel satin finish plain shoes make it easy for parading and trooping. They have them at the online/catalog shoe place called Maryland Square.
There are also a chocolate brown under sleeve for the costume if you look at the screen shots in the war room. They are simple to make with some brown jersey fabric about the length of mid bicep to wrist. Make a 'tube' with finished seams at each end.

It is good to make the robe slightly below ankle to keep it clean. Smile Smile

Let me know if you need any other help or tips.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The linen blend fabric was OK, but I wouldn't use it again. I think it would look better with a smoother finish.
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