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Hello From Wisconsin, Acceptable Jedi Knight Robes?
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knight_riven (Lauren Haag)
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:56 pm    Post subject: Hello From Wisconsin, Acceptable Jedi Knight Robes? Reply with quote

Hello Nar Shaddaa Base,
I am extremely interested in joining your force for good. Nothing cooler then volunteering and doing charity work surrounded by people who share the same passion for Star Wars Smile

My question is would my Jedi Knight robes I designed and created, qualify for the Rebel Legion?

I completely understand if they do not because they are my own design and not strictly based on one Star Wars character. I understand that the people of the Rebel Legion are held to a high strict standard for their costumes/cosplays.

I was just curious if my Jedi Knight robes would be a “Go” or “No Go”.

In the near future I plan on making more costumes/cosplays of Star Wars characters and a set of generic Jedi robes styled from the movie prequels. After those, I will apply to the Rebel Legion then.

If my robes do not meet the standards, I figure this is still a great opportunity to start meeting the community of the Nar Shaddaa Base.

I uploaded photos, I hope they show up.
(I wear dark brown pants with a matching long sleeve shirt):

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think they look great, im not sure if they will meet standards but im sure Phyllis will give you all the info you need

also welcome to the base
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the custom look! Like John said, Phyllis is going to be your best resource on it would be acceptable or not according to the standards.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks really cool for sure!! Good luck, hopefully it works out! Welcome in advance!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Again,

Thank you guys for taking the time to reply and the advice.

Am I allowed to contact Phyllis directly? Is so, where can I find Phyllis contact information?

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure she wouldnt mind , she's always willing to lend a hand in costume suggestions. Just shoot a PM to Schph Gochi. Welcome to the base and those robes look fantastic! I don't see any issues with them offhand, then again I'm not a costume judge Ben
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As is, I would say that as lovely as I think it is...it would not be approved as formal.

To help you, here is a copy and paste of the generic Jedi standards.



REQUIRED:


1. Outer tunic (OT): a. Sleeved. Sleeves should hang at least to the knuckles when the arms are held down at the side.

b. No Kimonos’s, karate/judo gi or gi like construction allowed.

c. OTs may be sleeveless as long as an Inner Tunic (IT) is worn and is long sleeved. No bare-armed Generic Jedi.

d. Sleeveless outer tunics may be fastened at the front and have an attached hood (recommended), though a hood is not compulsory. No vests, or sleeveless V-neck type sweaters may be worn as a sleeveless OT. A sleeveless OT should be surcoat or standard OT style in length. (Ki Adi Mundi and Sarrissa Jeng are examples of surcoat style OT’s.)

e. Tabards should not be worn with Ki Adi Mundi style OT or surcoat. Tabards are required with the standard OT style.

f. OT’s should have a collar approximately 1 inch to 2 inches wide.

g. OTs overall length may be variable and may extend to the floor. OTs are generally made in a fashion where there is a full skirt (attached to the main body of the OT) where the seam is hidden by the obi.


2. Tabards: Must extend at least to or past the bottom hem of the OT on the front. The back tabards may end under the obi or may extend to (or past) the bottom hem of the OT (or may be the same length as the front tabards). This guideline is obviously for the more traditional length OTs. For OTs that are longer (past the knee or to the floor or where a full length skirt is worn), the tabard length would be more variable.

a. Tabard construction should be such that the front tabards do not overlap. This is often accomplished by constructing the tabards in a “Y” formation where any seam joining the tabard below the obi to the tabard above the obi is covered by the obi. Tabards may cross in the back. Tabards may be sewn together in the back.

b. Scarf-style tabards, having an around-the-neck design, are permitted.

c. A single front tabard, centrally located (covering the crotch area) is permitted.

d. The end of the front tabard(s) may have a variable design (square, rounded, triangular, octagonal, etc.)

e. Tabards may have borders and/or varying decorative symbols or other decorations (such as Aurebesh, etc.). The decorations/designs should not obviously be from an Earth-bound period or culture (Renaissance, Celtic, Asian, tribal, etc.)

f. Leather or pleather tabards are permitted.

g. Tabard width should generally be from the seam at the collar of the OT to the edge of the shoulder and be a similar width as the obi. A general width to use would be 5 inches to 6 inches wide (depending on one’s height and build). Common sense should be used in selecting Tabard width, and the width should be proportional to the costumer’s body.

h. Kataginu are not permitted.


3. Obi (Sash): The obi wraps around the waist, and should be approximately three times the width of the belt and/or of a similar width as the tabards.

a. Obi closures (Velcro, snaps, etc.) should not be visible.

b. Leather or pleather Obi are permitted.

c. Obi may have borders.


4. Jedi Belt: Black or Brown Utility Belt (all belts should be proportional to wearer):

* Style A: Similar to Prequel Jedi belts: Wide leather main (inner, against the Obi) belt with a thinner secondary belt (outer) on top of the main belt, and a movie-style or similar buckle on the secondary belt.

a. Thinner secondary belt cannot be loose or “sag”.

b. Button studs should be used to help anchor the outer/thinner belt to the inner/wider belt. Generally, 8, eight button studs (screw posts or Chicago Screws, preferred) are used. Sam Browne button studs are permitted. The metal of the studs should match the metal of the buckle.

* Style B: Similar to Original Trilogy (Luke and Old Ben) belts: Singular wide leather belt with a rectangular, octagonal or oval unadorned buckle.

a. Belts are generally two inches to two and a half inches wide, but the width should be in proportion to the wearer. Very tall or large costumers may need a wider belt. Very short people may need a narrower belt.

b. Belt closures (Velcro, snaps, etc.) should not be visible.

c. No Earth-bound buckles or buckles that obviously belong to an Earth-bound period, culture or to other sci-fi/fantasy genres.

d. Belt and boots should match (be of a complimentary color), i.e., black and black or brown and brown. No black/brown combinations.


5. Lightsaber: (No toy sabers, no Ultimate FX short saber). The lightsaber may be a static prop (hilt-only). Attached blade(s), LED lights, and sound effects, are allowed but not required.

a. Metal hilt lightsabers are preferred, though custom lightsabers constructed of other materials are permitted.

b. Blade colors accepted are: blue, green, yellow, orange, white and violet. No red, pink or black blades.

c. Double-blade sabers are allowed.


6. Lightsaber Clip: Covertec or similar style lightsaber clip OR a hook/clip for lightsaber on belt.

a. For the “hook/clip” type of lightsaber attachment, the lightsaber (itself) will likely have a D-ring (similar to the connection system for the armored Darth Vader and Old Ben lightsabers).


7. Pants or skirt:

a. Pants should largely be non-descript without decoration. Traditional pants pockets are permitted, but must not be visible (e.g., hidden under the skirt of the OT).

b. No Cargo pants.

c. No hakamas.

d. Skirts (those separate from the OT) should be long enough so that no bare skin is visible, and may be floor length.

e. No Corellian Blood Stripes (Han Solo Pants).


8. Boots: Brown or Black Boots – Leather or leather-like (no rubber boots).

a. Over-the-calf, but not above the knee.

b. No visible laces or outside zippers. When necessary, inside zippers are permitted.

c. Straps & shin-spats are allowed but not required (though can be used to cover laces and zippers).

d. Boots and belts should match (be of a complimentary color), i.e., black and black or brown and brown. No black/brown combinations.

e. Buckles are permitted, but should complement the boot and not detract from the overall look of the Jedi costume.

f. Low-heeled 1 – 1 1/2 inches maximum. Spike heels are not permitted.


9. No visible t-shirts.


10. Permitted Colors for Outer Tunics, Inner Tunics, Tabards, Obi, Pants and Robes/Cloaks(capes): Earth tone colors, preferably shades of brown, gray, black and white. Other earth tones are allowed (greens, blues, yellows, violets and reds (where the reds are darker and in the burgundy family), but should be muted. No bright or loud (sharp) colors are allowed (examples would include: red, pink, neon green, etc.). Combinations of red and black are not allowed, as they are considered Sith colors. Colors of the Generic Jedi costume may be mixed and matched (except for the belt and boots). Legion Costume Judges are the final authority on color. If in doubt, contact a Legion Costume Judge for an opinion on proposed color combinations before construction.

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MINIMUM REQUIRED EXTRAS:
You must have at least three items from the following list for formal status:


1. Inner Tunic (IT): May be a full tunic or a false tunic (meaning a collar, neck portion and sleeves may be added to a shirt or t-shirt). Dickies or tunics/shirts with a Mandarin collar are allowed.

a. If the OT is sleeveless, then an IT must be worn and must have long sleeves.

b. Blouses and standard store bought turtlenecks may be used, but will not be considered ITs for the purposes of costume requirements.


2. Jedi Pouches: Two (or more) utility pouches or resin cast utility boxes. ( Leather or leather-like material or resin cast boxes, as seen in the Star Wars universe. )

a. The paint scheme on resin cast boxes should blend well with the overall costume.

b. Bags are not pouches, and are not permitted to serve as a pouch/box option.


3. Food pellets (at least one set of four) Food pellets should be painted a metallic color and may be gold, silver, bronze, copper or pewter. Other metallic colors are not permitted.


4.Jedi Robe or Cloak (Cape): Large Jedi robe or cloak (cape) with attached over-sized hood, similar to Prequel movie canon robes/cloaks, in the same color scheme as listed for the main costume (see #10. above).

a. A hooded cape with side splits similar in construction that worn by Anakin in Attack of the Clones, is permitted.

b. The hood should be large enough so that (1) when the hood is up, the sides of the hood drape to extend to or cover the shoulders and (2) when down, the tip of the hood should fall near the small of the back (or lower).

c. The sleeves should be full and flare larger on the hand end. When the hand end of the robe sleeve is closed, the length of the end of the sleeve should be at least half the length of the costumers arm (or longer). The circumference of the robe sleeve opening (at the hand) should be at least as long as the sleeve (from shoulder to the hem).

d. The overall body of the robe or cloak/cape should be full.

e. The length of the robe or cloak/cape should be hemmed no shorter than two inches off the floor.

f. A generic Jedi may not wear a robe/cloak that is unique to a face character. Example: Count Dooku’s cloak with neck chain.



In looking at your costume..
it appears that the robe will be good to go..
also...the tabards and obi/sash are also good to go.

I can't see how tall your boots are in the photos...but they must be higher than mid calf.

Also, it would appear that your lightsaber is a Hasbro? Toy lightsabers are not permitted. You can build your own lightsaber from materials found at a hardware store - it does not need to have a blade or light up. There used to be some websites out there on building lightsabers from commonly found materials.

Also, the belt would not work. Where interesting, the one buckle just looks too much like a "earth" style buckle.

Where long tunics are allowed, they do need to actually close down the front. From the photos, it would appear that your outer tunic only closes to the waist and is open from the waist down. It does look like you have another layer under there (dk brown) that I can't see.

Hope that helps...and you do have a great start to a Jedi costume...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phyllis,

Thanks so much for the feedback!

Ya, I kind of thought my robes wouldn't meet regulations, which I completely understand.

I made the robe and cloak for the premier of Star Wars VII. I have a couple friends in The 501st Legion and the Mandalorian Mercs. I'm greatly interested in helping in your volunteer work. So I thought, "hey I'll give it a shot and hear peoples feedback."

I'll make new robes that follow the generic Jedi robes guild lines. If my cloak meets standards I'll use that.

Hopefully I'll have progress in the next couple of months!

Again thank you so much for everyone taking the time and helping out!

Respectfully,
LJ
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the robe looks good, but if its not you dont need a robe to be formal
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a lovely outfit...
and...
even though it would not be approved as is...
you should still wear it as much as possible...

Even when you get some new items....and submit for formal...
make sure to wear your original one from time to time..

I have a Jedi costume that is not formal ...and I still wear it...

it is a sleeveless outer tunic and a short sleeved inner tunic...
it meets all other requirements except the fact that neither the inner or outer tunic is long sleeved...
I still wear it from time to time..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree. it looks great and should be worn,

i also have a leather armoured jedi that is not approvable but still like to wear to cons

be proud that it is different.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Again,

Long time no talk. I'm going to try and find time to make generic jedi robes that meet the Rebel Legion requirements.

I have some questions before I begin. I have two pair of boots and I was wonder if either one qualifies?

Then on the belt buckle, I was going to use the aged brass colored parachute buckle. In Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, it looks like Anakin has a silver parachute buckle on his belt. I have the brass parachute buckle and a silver buckle in the photo. Please let me know if either one is acceptable or if I need to find something else.

Please let me know when you can, thank you.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either pair of boots are acceptable as the zipper is on the boot surface between the legs.

Generic Jedi also has a wide range of acceptable buckles...so the buckle you chose would be fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Thank you very much for the reply. I was just unsure about the belt buckles I had because I wasn't sure what a Earth-bound buckle was.

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello again,

Slowly but surly I have been making progress on my jedi robes. Here is the link to my photo album:
https://m.facebook.com/pg/knightrivencosplay/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1405954532853610&ref=page_internal

Please let me know if the link doesn't work.

I still need to make the belt and I already have a cloak made just not picture yet. I have an single blade Ultra Saber and the blade color is cyan. If cyan color in not apporved I do own a green and blue single blade Ultra Saber.

I still need to fix some items but if you can please let me know your opinions when you can.

Thank you very much! Any help is appreciated!
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