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New Costume standard proposal - Rebel Ground Crew

 
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Iron Edge (Ian Cook)
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:14 pm    Post subject: New Costume standard proposal - Rebel Ground Crew Reply with quote

I recently had this costume approved and wrote a proposed standard for it. Id like to get it listed among the RL standards.



Trooper Class:
Rebel Ground Crew

Note, this is different than the hangar
technician in that the techs with helmets
are never seen directly working on the
fighters. The helmetless ground crew load
droids into the sockets and are hands on
for preflight prep and checks.

"Rebel Ground Crew" Proposed Standard:

Required:
Flightsuit: Light tan or light gray coverall
with mandarin-style collar and pointed tab,
rectangular pocket with a flap closure on
upper right arm, 2 hip pockets and 4 leg
pockets. No visible zippers or snaps. This
is the same flightsuit as the Pilots wear
and pockets should be the same. Pants
can be hemmed or cuffed.

Boots/shoes: Black boots or black shoes
with rounded toe and smooth finish. Black
Mid calf Boots are required if pant legs are
to be tucked in. Shoes may be worn if
pant legs are untucked.

Optional items:

Jumpsuit legs may be worn inside or
outside of the Boots.

If a belt is worn, legs must be untucked.

If no belt is worn, legs must be tucked in
to boots.

Belt: dark khaki, khaki green, British
Khaki, Olive, Olive drab or dark tan with a
roll pin buckle. Belt should have mini-flare
loops that can be empty or contain the
mini-flares.

One "Code Cylinder" aka "X-Wing tool" in
left pocket.

Reference Photos





Quote -
"This R2 unit of yours seems a bit beat up,
want a new one?"

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree we see the crew chief in several scenes, but couldn't it simply be a variant of the tech?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be fine as well, currently my costume does not conform to the existing standard of a tech because the standard lists Helmet and Belt as required. I needed to make the case and distinction of a new costume type in order to be approved and also to distinguish the "R2 loader" variant with the no belt/tucked pant leg.

If we want to go with just one standard for all variants, Id suggest also adding in the "War Room Tech" as well that has the belt and racal minilite headset.

Personally, I would have three separate standards to avoid confusion between the optional items, but listing them all out under the one standard could work too as long as the standard is revised and well written.

Hangar tech - Helmet, belt, untucked pantlegs
Ground crew - No helmet, belt or no belt, if no belt pantlegs are tucked in for R2 loader variant.
War room tech - Racal minilite, Belt, unsure on pantlegs so either might be fine
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a character that is not only clearly seen, but has dialogue with one of the "stars".

Coveralls and boots as the base costume.
Helmet, belt, and headset combinations as seen on screen.

I proposed this a couple of years ago but was eventually not accepted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is plenty of these guys on screen in ANH and countless other costume standards with less reference than these characters. Why wouldn't these standards be accepted or, at the very least, revise the current Tech standard to accept the 3-4 variations seen on screen? Why was your proposal rejected last time Mac?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=58617&highlight=
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reviewing that thread Mac is referencing, it looks like the end consensus was "I see no major issues with getting it created as a Standard." and most people in the discussion were in favor of creating new standards.

So where do we go from here to make it happen? Im down to assist, just let me know what needs doing Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you heard anymore about this standard?

Also, look at how many techs are seen in Rogue One with no helmet and also many with vests over the coveralls.

Iron Edge wrote:
After reviewing that thread Mac is referencing, it looks like the end consensus was "I see no major issues with getting it created as a Standard." and most people in the discussion were in favor of creating new standards.

So where do we go from here to make it happen? Im down to assist, just let me know what needs doing Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R1 is a different movie with different costumes made up from bits of the previous films so we cant compare/ contrast in my opinion. There was little budget for ANH costumes.

I just re read the topics ...and based on everything ive experienced with multi options to a single costume as both a Judge/GML & CRL / Standard writer i feel a separate standard is better.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Photobucket has struck and the reference photos are gone now. Ibe been trying to back mine up.


suggested edits in blue, removals in red.

Iron Edge wrote:


Hangar tech - Helmet, belt, untucked pantlegs
Ground crew - No helmet, belt or no belt, if no belt pantlegs are tucked in for R2 loader variant.
War room tech - Racal minilite, Belt, unsure on pantlegs so either might be fine

I agree that sub classifications would be helpful, and there would be nothing standing in the way of approving all three (or four with the helmet variety).

Ground Crew (or crew chief since this was a speaking role)

Required:
Flightsuit: Light tan or light gray coverall
with mandarin-style collar and pointed tab,
rectangular pocket with a flap closure on
upper right arm, 2 hip pockets and 4 leg
pockets. No visible zippers or snaps. This
is the same flightsuit as the Pilots wear
and pockets should be the same. Pants
can be hemmed or cuffed.

Boots/shoes: Black boots or black shoes
with rounded toe and smooth finish. Black
Mid calf Boots are required if pant legs are
to be tucked in. Shoes may be worn if
pant legs are untucked.

Optional items for Ground Crew or Crew Cheif

Jumpsuit legs may be worn inside or
outside of the Boots.


If boots are worn:

If a belt is worn, legs must be untucked.

If no belt is worn, legs must be tucked in
to boots.

[ what is the suggested combination for shoes?
*edit my photo collection shows the actors on lunch outside, one with untucked legs in black shoes with a belt on]


Belt: dark khaki, khaki green, British
Khaki, Olive, Olive drab or dark tan with a
roll pin buckle. Belt should have mini-flare
loops that can be empty or contain the
mini-flares.

One "Code Cylinder" aka "X-Wing tool" in
left pocket.
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