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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:45 pm    Post subject: Hair punching question Reply with quote

So I am fast approaching the point where I need to hair punch on my mask. I can see that I need to hair punch around the mouth and the nose areas but what do you guys do around the actual eyes? My concern is that if I silicone hair right up to the eye holes the silicone will show really obviously. Any tips?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally hair punch from the bottom lip downwards.
The moustache is hair punched and and the rest of the hair on the face is "layed up" which means glued down with silicone.

The secret is do it slowly and thinly. You don't want to loose any face definition whilst adding hair.

Others might do it differently, but that is my process.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you not have issues with silicone showing around the eyes if you layer up the eye sockets? Also do you use clear silicone for layering? At the moment I've used brown silicone and it shows really obvious where the hair is stuck on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use clear silicone

If you go thinly into and past the eye sockets, then trim once the silicone has cured or stop just before the sockets of the eyes. Keep checking your reference pictures. All the info is there.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do the same method as Chef myself. I use a product called Sil-Poxy from smooth-on and a small oil painting spatula to lay the hair.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I'll get the clear silicone for the eye areas and also for when I approach the nose and mouth Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the eyes, create a loop of bias tape for each eye. Glue hair into it. Glue the loop around the eye on the inside of the underskull/skin. Run the hair through the eye sockets and glue the other ends down.

What you are trying to avoid is having the ends of the eye hair poking you in your eyes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys. I looked up the cost Sil-Poxy and in the UK its about £40 for a tube. Just wondered what other silicone adhesives people use.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clear silicone caulk will work fine. Even Hollywood fx houses use it for both adhesive and as a paint base. You can thin it with many paint thinners and solvents. Adding cabosil will cause it to have a matte finish.

The Stan Winston school has a silicone painting tutorial where I learned the above.

Having used both silicone caulk and sil poxy, I am convinced they are the same thing. Same viscosity, same smell, same ingredients list, same cure time, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried normal silicone caulk and it just peel'd straight off the mask. However my local builders outlet has sold me a tube of silicone adhesive that apparently will stick to anything including silicone. I'll give that a try over the weekend and let you all know the results Smile
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