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Ritin Kornas ()
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I little question for the expert ! Smile Plus your opinion
- Does every donuts is supposed to have the decal on left side ?
- even if answer before is not. I thought I should make a version of the 3D model with the design of the decals inlayed in the model. Concretely, there is a .5 mm deep recess, just enough to be able to paint that easily Smile And should not really seam lower once painted. Do you think the decal is at the right place there ???





And some close up of the design, good ?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is an interesting idea. The downside is that it is a piece of military gear, and should look like paint or a decal, and that may be too deep to maintain the correct look.
I think it needs to be a bit more forward (look at this pic, it is above where the bill starts, past the openings for the ear covers a bit). It is also closer to the top than the bottom just like you did, so that distance looks right.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd stick with leaving it as a decal.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not all of the screen used Donuts have that graphic / decal added. Some have no decal, and it isn't required for costume approval, so it's probably best to just leave it flat.

It may possibly be a good idea to leave a couple of small registration marks to use for alignment / positioning of the decal.
Perhaps small bumps or protrusions that could be easily sanded down.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks you all for your feedback !

OddViking wrote:
That is an interesting idea. The downside is that it is a piece of military gear, and should look like paint or a decal, and that may be too deep to maintain the correct look.
I think it needs to be a bit more forward (look at this pic, it is above where the bill starts, past the openings for the ear covers a bit). It is also closer to the top than the bottom just like you did, so that distance looks right.


Regarding the position, well then I think it's well placed. Because It's a bit hard too take a good shot of the model, but the recess is very close to the front. I can't make it much more forward. My fear was actually it was too much front Smile
Regarding the paint/decal effect. Please not well it's half a millimeter deep. This is really nothing specially when you take into account there will be some printing accuracy that will probably reduce that, then the sanding to remove print line will most certainly get .25mm removed, then primer will smoother that a bit, and paint even more before you start painting the pattern Wink

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Not all of the screen used Donuts have that graphic / decal added. Some have no decal, and it isn't required for costume approval, so it's probably best to just leave it flat.

It may possibly be a good idea to leave a couple of small registration marks to use for alignment / positioning of the decal.
Perhaps small bumps or protrusions that could be easily sanded down.

I didn't made it clear last time but that would only be an option for printing if people want to Smile there other version without the recess will still be available.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool. I would possibly interested in one.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys ! Some news about this project Smile And lots of pics.

Finally got to work on it. Printed the updated model I did. I BTW removed the indents in the back, as the "Costumes" book about original trilogy clearly show its only paint and not indented. See:



However, I'll make the files available in 3 versions :
- "squared corner" indents, (~2mm depth)
- "squared corner" no indents (still ~.1mm depth, just to help position masking when painting, but with the necessary sanding, it's invisible except from very close.
- Rounded corner indents. (~2mm depth).

The basically raw printed helmet (not even glued together, very happy with the registration marks I did between the 4 pieces as it hold very well things together while gluing it !!!).


As you can see it's really hard to see the helping indents in the back, same with the decals from the front side, except when close up:



The same after gluing, smoothing, sanding, priming and resanding.


The model comes without bumps, but I use hot air gun to warm some parts and add 3 (you need to do it inside and outside the donut, take care the plastic gets really warm to touch barehand when soft enough). Kinda hard to see them on those pics :




Finally after a couple layer of paint, I finished my helmet... pretty heavy on the paint chipping and the weathering I must admit. Next one will be less as I was experimenting multiple painting techniques on this one Smile
Trying to hide in nature




And with flash On. It makes green appears more green than actually is.



So, Following that, and having adjusted it to my head, I'll make 2/3 little adjustments and release the model online. I find the helmet slightly to big as I could trim at least one more centimeter from the lower brim, so I'll downsize it to 97%.

Also, in the assembly of my ERT, I modeled the bandoleer. Sneak peak Wink





Depending on taste, I also made those full cylinder

And all the elements together. The "comm" system was found on thingiverse and put there to scale.

Two of them on my belt webbing :

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