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Anovos Flight Vest Accurate / Approvable?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject: Anovos Flight Vest Accurate / Approvable? Reply with quote

Anyone seen these yet? Just popped up on Anovos' web site. Actually in stock, they claim. $120. Not sure how that price compares to other vendors.

https://www.anovos.com/products/star-wars-classic-rebel-pilot-flight-vest


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here. I am wondering too? Also, its a decent price for a vest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The biggest glaring error I see is where the shoulder straps are attaching to the panel. They should be flush with the edge of the panel, not brought in. The other 2 problems I have is with the panel itself. The sides should contour more with the curve of the rib edges. And the bottom looks a little too long. The back I think also has the too much fabric on the sides problem. And of course where the shoulder straps attach.

All this being said, the price is pretty good and these are easy alterations.




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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I contacted Anovos to see if they had any better pictures of the vest, but they do not. They do have pictures of a complete ensemble, though, which can be seen here: https://www.anovos.com/collections/star-wars/products/star-wars-classic-trilogy-x-wing-pilot-ensemble-pre-order
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one in hand, having bought it before thinking to ask the forum. what was previously said about the straps is right on the money, because their attached on the outer side on the inside of the panels, and they point in, should be an easy fix.

The back panel is also longer than the front, and it seems like the grouping of the ribs is a bit uneven, though it may just be the braces being finicky.

If anyone wants any specific pictures of it, lemme know and ill post them.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the original 1962 Windack Pressure Suit, that the vest is based off of, shows they are close, but missed on some of the details especially where the straps connect...


More images here: Windack Pressure Suit
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the pictures and link, Gil - this is very helpful!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Gil, cool reference material! I had no idea.

Did they use ACTUAL pressure suit vests (surplus or whatever), or is that just the inspiration for the design?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly can't say and be 100% certain, but some of the Hero props for the Bossk suit and Bo Shek used the actual found items.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kman wrote:
Wow, Gil, cool reference material! I had no idea.

Did they use ACTUAL pressure suit vests (surplus or whatever), or is that just the inspiration for the design?


If I recall correctly, there were only 4 or 5 prototypes made by Windak for the RAF. The project did not progress further, the remaining suits were sold off and wound up in the various costume rental shops.

The vests seen in the OT are damn near stitch for stitch accurate reproductions of the original Windak items.

The look of the garment is the sum of the individual details - the ribbing, the spacing between the ribs, the specific pattern of the ribbing, the size, the straps, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

If any one is curious, this was the Anovos vest. I may have gotten the literal last one as it was found by chance in their warehouse a few months after they were sold out ... 2 sizes too big for me but I can alter it down.

I got it as the ribs have springs in them and it sit nicely when on the jumpsuit.

Was there there a determination on if this is acceptable? Before I start permanently making changes to the this flack vest, could this even pass?

Also, this is likely a silly question, but I cannot seem to find the RL standards for general rebel pilot? I've probably just overlooked them... sorry if this is a silly question. (EDIT: i was able to find the standards)

I uploaded a large photo and can provide the "inside" too if you're curious.. but you only see the outside anyways... sorry if these are too big





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PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal Argos wrote:
Hi,

If any one is curious, this was the Anovos vest. I may have gotten the literal last one as it was found by chance in their warehouse a few months after they were sold out ... 2 sizes too big for me but I can alter it down.

I got it as the ribs have springs in them and it sit nicely when on the jumpsuit.

Was there there a determination on if this is acceptable? Before I start permanently making changes to the this flack vest, could this even pass?

Also, this is likely a silly question, but I cannot seem to find the RL standards for general rebel pilot? I've probably just overlooked them... sorry if this is a silly question. (EDIT: i was able to find the standards)

I uploaded a large photo and can provide the "inside" too if you're curious.. but you only see the outside anyways... sorry if these are too big






The Anovos flak vests are approvable, as long as they fit you correctly.

That said, there are a few details that are wrong, such as the top straps connecting to the vest roughly 1/2" in, instead of being flush along the edge. It's also really sheer and could benefit from having a backing sewn on to reduce that. If you're making alterations, I'd consider making those tweaks as well (they're indicated in the first few posts, above, better than I'm saying it here), but unless something has changed, they ARE approvable out of the box. (again, given correct fit)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kman wrote:

The Anovos flak vests are approvable, as long as they fit you correctly.

That said, there are a few details that are wrong, such as the top straps connecting to the vest roughly 1/2" in, instead of being flush along the edge. It's also really sheer and could benefit from having a backing sewn on to reduce that. If you're making alterations, I'd consider making those tweaks as well (they're indicated in the first few posts, above, better than I'm saying it here), but unless something has changed, they ARE approvable out of the box. (again, given correct fit)


Much appreciated kman.

Yep I did see the above discussion but it sort of died and there was no decision either way. After reading the standards (which tend to be very exacting compared to other standards), there were a couple issues with the Anovos vest.. " the gap" is only 1.5 inches and the extra fabric.

The vest is pretty good otherwise, I very much like the fact that it has metal springs adn not plastic tubing. Im just concerned on how complicated it would be to fix these issue with a normal tailor... so that said I'm debating my options.

Oh about the transparency, it does match the ANH flack vests as several scenes you can see the "diagonal" under vest from the shoulder straps... its kind of a nice detail.. that I like about the ANH vests...

I'll fire up a thread for my x-wing pilot costume and get feedback there...

thanks again!

Paul
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know at least two x wing pilots in our local base who were approved with Anovos flak vests. There's another thread somewhere where they were discussed and someone noted they would be approved, per Command, but I can't find the thread at the moment.

But again, based on at least two known approved Anovos-wearers, I'd still say yes.
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