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Generic not-Mace-Windu Jedi; WIP

 
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jasnoksieznik (Michal)



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:08 pm    Post subject: Generic not-Mace-Windu Jedi; WIP Reply with quote

Hello fellow jedi, I've started off with my costume and I'm curious if you can share any insights about it, before submission. The starting point was Mace Windu style, since the fabric/colors I liked were as close to his, as viable.

I have no experience in sewing/clothing/fabrics/props. Props are all bought, while I help my wife with the sewing. She does some sewing for babies, about one piece per month, so she has the equipment and skills, but my jedi clothes are the biggest project so far. This is, what a couple amateurs/beginners can make within several weekends.

Tutorial used (thank you, this was the help I was looking for, even if a bit too advanced for me):
http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29112

Pattern used (thank you, this gave us the starting point):
http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=82924

We did inner tunic first, as the fabric was simpler and some mistakes can be covered by outer tunic, in case of failure. This went pretty good, within one weekend 90% of work was done, the next 10% took a whole week after Very Happy. This one is ready, even if bottom extensions for tucking the tunic into trousers fall off short.

With this experience, we went for outer tunic, with heavier fabric and stiff in-iron inlays for tabards and collar. we're mostly finished, but ran out of thread, to be continued next week.

Boots are arriving next week
Pleather belt+food+pouches+covertec have already arrived
Saber is planned, most probably one like this: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1108697#1108697. I'll order it, when the rest of the costume is finished. Business first, pleasure later. Wink
Trousers - as on fotos. It is surprisingly hard to get white/light gray chinos in the middle of the winter, though.

To-do list:
Tuck OT shoulders, as discussed here: http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48075
Sew OT Collar (ran out of thread)
Finish 1st tabard (ran out of thread)
Sew 2nd tabard (ran out of thread)
Velcos all over the place (hold inner tunic together, belt with obi, obi with tabards front/back, obi with obi)
Button on shoulder to hold tabards to OT

One of my main concerns here is the overall width of the costume. I've grown 185cm/95kg and the costume feels almost too wide in the shoulders. Is this normal?

Second thing might be the length of the tabards. They should be as long as the skirt of the outer tunic. They're almost there. While skirt reaches knees, the tabards don't. It still makes them as long as in the references , respectively to my body (almost to knee). Will that be an issue?

Images (pardon the needles, missing stiches/pouches/tabard. And socks. And the pepper mill):





If there are any other issues that may stop me from becoming an approved generic jedi, please point me into right direction. So far-so good, I like this project and hope to have it ready for a next nearby comic-con or RL event.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tabards are to be as long or slightly longer than the outer tunic in front. It looks like you have ample margin to hem the skirt a bit higher.

Keep an eye on that belt for drooping. On pleather cosplay belts that are actually anchored next to the closure, the outer belt has a tendency to sag as the piece ages and things stretch out slightly.

also make sure that the ends of the belt stay aligned so the end strap doesn't peek out from under the girth strap.
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jasnoksieznik (Michal)



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grimwalker wrote:
Tabards are to be as long or slightly longer than the outer tunic in front. It looks like you have ample margin to hem the skirt a bit higher.

Thanks. That's what I was afraid of. Shorter skirt would be definitely the direction to go, as sewing tabards was much more challenging and fabric consuming as expected (a.k.a. wife saying "I'm not going to do that again!").

Grimwalker wrote:

Keep an eye on that belt for drooping. On pleather cosplay belts that are actually anchored next to the closure, the outer belt has a tendency to sag as the piece ages and things stretch out slightly.

Indeed. I got one from "jedi robes" and realized that the thin belt is actually not fastened at all - it is just bent over the fake lock at the front!
In a long run, a colleague at work just started to work with leather for her western riding. I think I'll negotiate custom belt with her.


Grimwalker wrote:

also make sure that the ends of the belt stay aligned so the end strap doesn't peek out from under the girth strap.

Roger! Roger!
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jasnoksieznik (Michal)



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sewing will continue next weekend, so I have plenty of time to think and ask questions.

I"ve read http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49614 about the fabrics. Obviously, its a bit late, but I'm concerned that the fabric I chose may have too plain texture. Is there any rule or similar fabric that got accepted/denied?



Another concern, on the photos above, is the size of the costume, in arms and shoulder. The guy that created the template I mentioned above is of similar height and ca. 15kg less, so I figured it won't be to big. However, the OT feels big and the circumference of the arm feels huge! Its 62cm.
Mace Windu's OT looks much lighter/slicker than mine: https://i0.wp.com/caps.pictures/200/2-starwars2/full/starwars2-movie-screencaps.com-13376.jpg?strip=all
Did I do something wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think the texture of that fabric looks fine.

If you're not trying to do the actual face character of Mace Windu, it doesn't need to match every detail exactly. You're basically doing a generic Jedi, at that point, so those rules apply, and then make it as similar to Windu as you care to. But there's no need to get hung up on matching him exactly, unless you really want to.
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jasnoksieznik (Michal)



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been new developments.

I've realised that the famous pattern posted by peptidyl is a great starting point, but it fits more Gamorrean than a human being of 6 feet (183cm) and 95kg

Alterations done in advance (that's what you can see on previous pictures):
- longer inner tunic extension (still too short to tuck it properly)
- longer sleeves of outer tunic
- longer skirt
- longer tabards
- longer obi, this one was no-brainer, since I'm 10-15kg heavier than the author of the pattern


What I did this week was to look at it with a fresh approach and
- tightened the outer tunic in waist/skirt, by as much as 15cm
- did an extended shoulder tuck, to lose some fabric in the back as well
- narrowed sleeves by as much as 15cm
- ate a death star cake for my bitrthday Smile

After inspecting my tabards, I decided to redo them completely, due to being too short and of uneven length.
I was out of fabric though, so went for a resupply and found at last the infamous cotton gauze. It's called "diaper fabric" in the land I live Surprised. Took it and I'm really happy. The color fits my expectations of a jedi better, so goodbye Master Windu, hello good looking!
I've already made an obi out of it.

Tabards to be done, lightsaber(s) will be ordered by sunrise.



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