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X-Wing Pilot Flares Holder Measurements Estimations/Study
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:49 pm    Post subject: X-Wing Pilot Flares Holder Measurements Estimations/Study Reply with quote

Have been reading tutorials here and there. Was not convinced but measurements recommendations so I estimated them. Quite a surprise. Here is what I got:

Base and middle strap estimation:




Flare estimation:


In conclusion, base is about 3.53" or 8,97 cm under my metric system and the strap is about 2" or 5,08 cm. About the flare, well, that's probably the only measurement that matched some tutorials: 7/8". Bases my estimation in those 2 cm from stitch to stitch from the boots. That's a real measurement taken from a real boot. As usual, worried about screen accuracy. I suspected from simple observation that 4" base and 2" strap could not be good given the real proportions and that's why I estimated them. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modified first estimation based on this photo:


Now, I am more comfortable with this estimation. I cut the wood flares today and realized that something was wrong. Doubled checked it and tada, my first estimation was wrong. Just correcting it. Ben
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I built a prototype using my estimated measurements:



I also made it following original stitches:



My next one will be better and strap will be centered Wink



I was able to get olive drab canvas locally to work with. Have to work on the flares shape to complete the prototype. Keep you posted.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say your estimates are pretty good, based on those pictures. The top strap is the same width as the ejection harness and the bottom strap is about double the width of the top strap. The prototype looks great. I'll be following this when I get around to making my pilot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, base strap is approx 1.76 times wider than middle strap. Here I present another estimation:



PS: If anyone is willing to give me another photo where I can triple check my estimation, I will really appreciate.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I rounded the borders of my flare and installed it, I realized that something was wrong. It looks shorter than screen used:





So, I found a new photo from a better perspective where I was able to re-do my estimation:



Now, I will do a new holder and cut a new rod of wood to test it. Base strap is about 4" and middle strap is 2.25". Based my estimation on a 22.2mm rod or 7/8" for USA metrics. Keep you posted guys. Ben
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night I made a 2nd and 3rd prototype. 2nd did not came out do well, so I created a new one. This is the ONE. Wood flare are short cause were cut according to my second estimations, so don't worry about them:









more photos here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111941144640268065631/albums/5900891451939879377?authkey=CN3WppTy8rnbew

next task is get those flares made well. Will need a wood lathe or something like that. Tried my Dremel and failed. I played with the position and spacing of the flares until I was pleased with everything. I also centered better the middle strap this time. Ben
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much Diego by the measures, the pictures and simple and easy explicaion

I'll take an example to make my prototype and test

thanks again

Ben
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just doing some research about wood lathes I found out this:






Have to do some practice and they will look sharp. Very easy to use and very cheap. Kid's play. Ben
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thread! Bookmarkign it for reference. Lots of useful stuff here.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP: I always enjoy the details in your threads. This thread has some very good information. I'm especially interested in that small lathe you bought. I need one! If not for costuming, for other hobby interests that I have. Thanks for the tip.

As an aside, does anyone know of or have a link to an explanation of what influenced development of the original X-Wing costume? Jackboots. Thigh-front flap pockets, and boot flares. These all remind me of the old WWII German Luftwaffe uniforms. Coincidence?

Sorry for taking your thread off course a little. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, here some updated about the wood flares. They are just a test:




and here a video where you can see how Playmat works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlgLYhKk0pg

It is quite simple and funny.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First batch of flares were machined. I tried two kind of wood. Soft and semi-soft. Both looks great and painted you won't tell the difference but the weight. I created a platform in MDF to attach the lathe. I recommend to do that.





Next step is to fill the holes and paint. Keep you posted guys. And again, I encourage to buy the lathe toy. It is very useful. Ben
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent job Diego, are spotless flares, the lathe this presiso and easy to use at shown to in your post

Thanks again for showing the easy next to the prop

Ben
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work! ¡Sos un groso! Smile
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