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Kal Skirata - Fringe or Rebel Supporter?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Kal Skirata - Fringe or Rebel Supporter? Reply with quote

HI all,

I am a very big fan of the mandalorians (thanks majorily to having friends in the Mandalorian Mercs and also being a recruit) and well there isn't enough standards to have them included in to our ranks. I would like to see a Kal Skirata costume standard. if need be I'd do it my main concern is that there are not enough reference pictures for it but how does everyone else feel would Kal Skirata be a fringe or rebel supporter?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would put him on same level as Juno Eclipse (from TFU) = rebel supporter Smile ...

OR

But he could nicely fit also into Clone Trooper Detachment Wink ... as he has a rank of "Training Sergeant" Wink ...

ps: did you include into references this miniature

... yes, it is not directly named as Skirata, but it based on his character Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought miniatures weren't allowed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ixam Let'si wrote:
I thought miniatures weren't allowed.


Maybe I am wrong, but they are licensed material from LFL Wink ... and in past, I think some of them were already used as reference ( Leia from NJO ) ... but maybe I am wrong Smile

Miniature itself is not great reference, but, for each miniature is present card with picture Smile





But main question still remain - it is enough to declare standard on this? In the end, it just "Republic Commando Trainign Sergeant" ... BUT ... based on Kal Skirata Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great question.

I think I'll take a look into it?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its been discussed before. There's not enough corroborating, usable references for Kal and the other Mandos from the RC books due to the fact most of them are not correctly attributed to the proper character or in many cases Karen Traviss pointed at a drawing and said, sure that's this or that character.

Its all a giant mess.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WedgeAntilles wrote:
Its been discussed before. There's not enough corroborating, usable references for Kal and the other Mandos from the RC books due to the fact most of them are not correctly attributed to the proper character or in many cases Karen Traviss pointed at a drawing and said, sure that's this or that character.

Its all a giant mess.


Well that is unfortunate.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are other official Lucasfilm images of Kal Skirata which are labeled as him. These are both from Del Rey books. One is from the Guide to Warfare:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kal_Skirata?file=Jango_Fett_and_Kal_Skirata.jpg (labeled Jango Fett and Kal Skirata oversee clone trooper training).

The other is from the Essential Readers Companion (written by Pablo Hidalgo). I believe this image was accidently reversed in print. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kal_Skirata?file=Kal_Skirata_by_Brian_Rood.jpg

To me these are far more official than the miniature since they label the character as Kal Skirata.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Artoo wrote:
There are other official Lucasfilm images of Kal Skirata which are labeled as him. These are both from Del Rey books. One is from the Guide to Warfare:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kal_Skirata?file=Jango_Fett_and_Kal_Skirata.jpg (labeled Jango Fett and Kal Skirata oversee clone trooper training).

The other is from the Essential Readers Companion (written by Pablo Hidalgo). I believe this image was accidently reversed in print. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kal_Skirata?file=Kal_Skirata_by_Brian_Rood.jpg

To me these are far more official than the miniature since they label the character as Kal Skirata.


Those pictures are well known, of course Smile

Main point is, that current charter say:

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Costumes eligible for Rebel Legion membership, that do not have written/posted costume standards must include:
1. Two or more images, head to toe, showing the front and back of the costume being created OR a 360-degree head-to-toe turnaround of the character.


There are 2 and more pictures, but no head to toe ... except discussed miniature Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every figure on this character is not of this character. There are a few official art renders of him. However they are not detailed enough. As one of three approved Kal's in the 501st, what I can tell you is you are better off going through the mercs on this one vs coming here or there. Kal is not a realized character. It's one of those costumes I kinda regret getting approved because he should never have been. Now if you can get an artist of LFL to draw one and get it published some how. Ta da! now you have reference!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad the official named images can't be used for head to shin and use the miniatures and text description for the boots. I feel like the named, licensed images should trump the miniature on everything that's seen, but the 501st did not agree when this was argued after the newer books came out around two years ago. It's just hard to get enough detail on a miniature to do anything but confirm that a boot or other part does just look like Jango (but in sand gold).

There is actually a fair amount of detail here, especially when you combine it with other licensed sources. You can see the similarity of things like the holsters and armor pieces to Jango's and get an even better idea.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a MMCC friend of mine was hoping to do this costume as his triple threat.

I broke the bad news but he indicated that a MMCC member got a hold of some official art.



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ixam Let'si wrote:
a MMCC friend of mine was hoping to do this costume as his triple threat.

I broke the bad news but he indicated that a MMCC member got a hold of some official art.


I think it is obvious, how this art was used Very Happy



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But there's no back picture on that card but there's a back. On mine.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ixam Let'si wrote:
But there's no back picture on that card but there's a back. On mine.


Yes, that is true Wink ...

ps: is there any indication who made this picture? I am not able to read it properly from art Sad
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