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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More updates coming very soon.

Allot of pics have been taken along the way. Also a couple of videos.

Still a way to go though.
But it's the on the last stage..hair work
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait to see all the updates, especially any videos. I really want to do this on my own since I already have a head casting of myself and plenty of clay since I do latex mask....but I have never touched fiberglass or any other item used in this process lol. I am still very old school with heavy plaster. So needless to say, I need to learn this.

Are you casting the teeth with a kit? The containers and everything looked like they fit perfectly.

Also, how do you know if the clay for the silicone is too thick or thin?

I really am scared to death to try this later in the year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi bud,
If you search through, there was a build thread for my first and second mask.
If you want any mouth movement then silicone is the way forward.

The thickness can be tested by randomly sticking a cocktail stick in the clay skin layer. You will need it about the thickness of a rasher of bacon.

The teeth were bought and the gums and k9s were sculpted.
The containers used to cast the teeth are just take away dishes.

The way to tackle it is to just get stuck in and try... Just use as much reference photos as you can. Also reference dogs and bears as that was the inspiration for the original.

Hope that helps
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info! Thank you very much! I will have to read up on it for sure and watch videos. May not be till I am a lot closer to that step since I am just now starting (bucket stilts and hair are in route). But I will for sure since I really need to learn it. Would make not only this but other projects a lot easier for me to do!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updates...

A quick video of the appliance movement before the teeth are added.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9IShcmQJyo
and after

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOtjyh_Erno
The teeth bonded to the underskull with p40.







with the Silicone appliance laid on top.





you can see the differences to my current mask when laid next to each other



Holes drilled and popper part inserted into the holes. This protects the fibreglass over time from the rubbing of the wire mech



Snarl mechs made and attached to the wires. These move the lip up and and down.


and with the snarl mech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udnlse5-DIc
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New silicone appliance with plastic gel 00.
it is a hell of lot more like natural skin with more ease of flex. You can the better movement. But the main plus is its easier to operate with my jaw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvp0Hvn0ChY





it is a hell of lot more like natural skin with more ease of flex.

After painting and adding the velcro to the back of the appliance to attach to the underskull


Mesh added for latch hooking the hair in.




and a photo of the rear


Hair latching begun






After the rear of the head, time to work from the forehead and work down the hairline







some of the silicone was showing through the hair. Pulled the silicone forehead out and over the mesh to pain in a darker silicone pigment.



adding grey 44 to the crown area.




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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now time for the blond to be added to the side areas









siliconed the mesh at the hairlines and removes excess mesh.







Adding blond to the opposite side of the head.







Hairs being thinned down with thinning shears at all stages as i go.

- - - Updated - - -

Now adding hair with silicone to blend out the mesh



under the chin area

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info in previous post
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This an amazing thread. I'm still debating whether to buy or make my mask. I'm not sure about making it but this thread is so detailed I may just give ti a go. Thank you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you.
I say..go for it. What have you got to loose.

|Its fun learning new stuff and you have the benefit of saying "i made it myself"


if you get stuck, ill try and help
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

..more hair work done.
most is now glued with cheap caulk/silicone applied with a small pallet knife.
Done in sections and awaiting drying before moving onto the next section.







After the side of the face was done..time to do the moustache. Partly glued and then hair punched.











onto the next side of the face




then onto the eye sockets and eyebrows









before thinning out



and after





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE2iWDfiBjc
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its pretty much finished...
Just a little bit of interior work for better fitting when opening the mouth.
onto a couple of pics.





bear in mind no eye makeup worn for these pics.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Chef. Nice work.

How long would you say your hair strands are, on average?
Do you glue just the ends down or the entire strand?
Could you describe your overall technique for gluing?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GotWookiee wrote:
Hey, Chef. Nice work.

How long would you say your hair strands are, on average?
Do you glue just the ends down or the entire strand?
Could you describe your overall technique for gluing?



Hey Mat, thanks for that

on average the strands are 12 inches. Being a bit longer doesn't matter too much, but too long and it makes it harder to handle and work with the hair.
For the top half of the face I spread a thin layer of silicone and not wide either. then place the hair from one end to the other. Leave for about five minutes and then add more hair alongside in the same manner.
When working on the areas affected by movement for the lip curl/snarl i work slightly different.
I glue anchor points at the beginning of laying down the hair and at the end point. This helps keep the appliance as flexible as it can be at this stage. It doesn't seem that it is as flexible or as stretchy as it was before adding hair ever.

Hope that makes sense ? if not ask away.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quick mech test video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XSzLHUPrwU
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