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TFA X-Wing Pilot Costume Break Down
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sucks for me! I bought 7 yards of the 1000 Denier (1000D) Coated CORDURA® Nylon Fabric. Lesson Learn Razz
Can't wait to get a FINAL standard list to go by.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could that also be a generalised statement relating to the non-pilot costumes ie the officers etc?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely
Jerrick Sunrunner wrote:
Could that also be a generalised statement relating to the non-pilot costumes ie the officers etc?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could a racing suit like this have been used as the base?
It is a cotton drill it seems and only available in the UK.

http://www.hthughes.com/motorsports-racing-suits/flame-retardant-motorsports-clothing/proban-oulton-race-suit-class-2/prod_49.html?added=1

I'm just starting a Poe and am digging around in the forums and getting excited!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jerrick Sunrunner wrote:
Could that also be a generalised statement relating to the non-pilot costumes ie the officers etc?


Maybe, but the quote is pretty definite. Without contradicting info from Lucal Film / Disney, I'd be inclined to trust the costume desinger quote over someone's guess on a forum.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peregrinus wrote:
Could a racing suit like this have been used as the base?
It is a cotton drill it seems and only available in the UK.

http://www.hthughes.com/motorsports-racing-suits/flame-retardant-motorsports-clothing/proban-oulton-race-suit-class-2/prod_49.html?added=1

I'm just starting a Poe and am digging around in the forums and getting excited!


It's close, but no yoke.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dannv is right. There is no yoke on the front. Additionally it has a waistband. The TFA flight suit has a single seam connecting the bottom and top halves of the suit and the front placket appears to be a single piece of fabric. Also,it looks to have ankle gathers and front slant pockets, which the TFA suit does not.
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Peregrinus wrote:
Could a racing suit like this have been used as the base?
It is a cotton drill it seems and only available in the UK.

http://www.hthughes.com/motorsports-racing-suits/flame-retardant-motorsports-clothing/proban-oulton-race-suit-class-2/prod_49.html?added=1

I'm just starting a Poe and am digging around in the forums and getting excited!


It's close, but no yoke.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're now a 1 month out from the Home Entertainment release of The Force Awakens in the UK and i have a number of pilots who are looking to wear TFA pilot costumes for store appearances.

How close are we to getting some standards agreed so people can start submitting?
Theres also a number of potential pilots on Facebook in the EP7 research group who have been holding off waiting for the RL standards.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait for these standards!
I've had to put everything on hold so that I don't waste time and money.
Everyone looks great though.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case no one's seen our posts elsewhere here:

We in Mos Espa/Massiff Squadron have went with a lighter-weight but similar type synthetic fabric. It's red-orange... it's Cordura-ey... it kinda breathes... it's plain weave... and it's about $9/yard: "Solar Cherry" polypropelene.


(the big left leg pocket)

Can be found off the rack at JoAnn's, but catch it when you can use the reoccurring 60% off web coupon... it's normally $22/yard there. Fabric.com has it though for less than $9/yard:
https://www.fabric.com/buy/ug-619/richloom-solarium-solar-outdoor-cherry

We feel its a great second-best to the "real stuff" (1000D Cordura), at half the weight and still maintaining the correct overall look without being ungodly uncomfortable. Some might think it a shade too red, but remember if you're going for screen-accuracy, ask yourself how the pilots look when they're all running around on screen: RED AS HELL. Granted, lighting... but it just shows the possible range.

It's coming together folks.... a bunch of really talented folks, you all are who are tackling this and getting it right! No matter what actual fabric we all use, we're looking pretty awesome Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd add a couple great new photos here, borrowed from the Facebook group:



Closer up, the guys to the left:


And the right:


Looks like sidearms are OPTIONAL! From what's visible, all have the right side white canvas bag though. I love the one guy on the left, with his belt "paddles" facing inward Smile And leg flares worn anywhere they like, upside down... but all have 5 flares. So far, I can only see Jess Pava wearing 4. Perhaps it's the more petite pilots who get 4...?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHAHA his tube isn't even in his pants
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I noticed that too! Laughing

From looking at a lot of different pictures, it seems that sometimes the end is tucked into the G-suit / "chaps" and sometimes it's in a pocket.

But someone in wardrobe missed this one! Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what we figure, the end of the hose actually connects to the x-wing. When out of the cockpit, the pilot can place it anywhere that he or she wants (pocket or chap) to hold it in place. Looks like some (at least one) just let it dangle

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Yeah, I noticed that too! Laughing

From looking at a lot of different pictures, it seems that sometimes the end is tucked into the G-suit / "chaps" and sometimes it's in a pocket.

But someone in wardrobe missed this one! Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

The following is a detailed, low-level verbose breakdown of the Generic and character resistance XWing pilot costumes seen in TFA. This is a combination of the best information available and the information contained in several draft proposals from members.

This describes what we understand an authentic TFA Xwing costume should have. These are not the standards (the draft for generic only is to be discussed here http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=847545). But this represents our current, best understanding of the costumes seen in the movie.

Please discuss and contribute anything you may have to help make this the best TFA XWing pilot resource available for members to use.

Thanks.

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Generic TFA Resistance X-wing Pilot Standard
(Face Character details interwoven in the Generic description)


FLIGHT SUIT
* One-piece medium to heavy-weight jumpsuit (material should not be overly stiff) with the following details:
* Reddish-orange/dark orange (leaning towards red). Color should fall between the color spectrum of OT Rebel Pilot Orange and the ROTJ B-Wing red. (PLEASE NOTE: these two ends of the color spectrum mentioned above are NOT acceptable for approval as there is a noticeable difference between both of them and the correct TFA Pilot color.)
* The suit has no waistband, only a seam at the waistline.
* Collar is a stand-up style (approximately 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm tall) and features tightly pleated detailing all the way around the outside of collar. The inside of the collar should match the flight suit. The collar closes at front mandarin style (sides match up or slightly overlap - screen caps show 4 hook and eye closures on the inside of the collar). Color should be close in color to the flight suit, a little darker, but not an exact match.
* Pleated trim details (3"/7.62cm/76.2mm) run down the outside of the arms and down to the cuff at the wrist. Trim should be close in color to the flight suit, a little darker, but not an exact match.
* There are no arm pockets, only a thin "pen holder" made of the same fabric and color as the base suit present on the upper left arm (approximately 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm) below the left shoulder seam. The strip extends slightly over the edges of the pleated trim on the sides and has 3 small (pen-sized) loops in the middle.
* No visible zippers or snaps. Zipper up front of the suit should be covered by a placket (approximately 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm), extending from collar to crotch.
* There is a small tab along the placket just below the collar. The tab is a loop or small pocket of fabric that functions as an attachment point for the chest box in the actual costume. The chest box has a clip on the back (similar to a slide belt clip) to secure it to the tab.
* The flight suit legs have an outer "chap" layer. This start 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm - 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm below the waist seam (roughly halfway between the waist and crotch) and curve down toward the inseam. The left front of the chap should allow access for the chest box hose.

* Each leg has 2 pockets:
o The top right leg pocket (cargo pocket style /3D style with a front, bottom and sides) with flap closure sits on the outside upper-right thigh toward the outer seam of the chap (which should line up with the outer seam of the suit legs under it) and has a secondary flat oval/oblong pocket with a flat flap closure that wraps around the front of the leg. The secondary pocket has a flap that is two inches thick and runs horizontal across the top and that is attached at the sides.
o A smaller second rectangular pocket (cargo pocket style) with rounded edges is located below the oval detail on the costumer's right leg. The bag-like pocket has a flap flap top and it is sewn into the front knee.
o The top left rectangular pocket (cargo pocket style) with a square flap faux closure (open at top) sits at the left thigh and has small strip/stripe detail running vertically down the base of the pocket. It is also layered over a tall, narrow open-topped pocket.
o A smaller second rectangular pocket (cargo pocket style) with rounded edges is located on the left leg, has a flat flap top and is sewn into the front knee.
o A strap (1"/2.54cm/25.4mm dark grey webbing) runs around the leg just below the lower pocket on each leg. The strap is sewn in place on the pant leg. The strap features a sliver/light-grey slide-adjuster buckle located on the front side of the leg.
* The flight suit legs should extend to the ankle or top of foot. Bottoms of legs should have a small, cuffed edge folded and sewn under (required for Poe Dameron), folded under with an elastic band inside (required for Jess Pava), or just bloused under (required for Snap Wexley).
* Flight suit should have a strap (1"/2.54cm/25.4mm dark grey webbing) that runs across the width of the lower back and features a black adjustable quick-release buckle.
* Sleeve Cuffs - Generic TFA Resistance X-wing pilots have the choice of 2 options:
o OPTION 1: The sleeves end with no separate cuffs attached (required for Snap Wexley).
o OPTION 2: The suit sleeves may end in charcoal/dark grey knit ribbed cuffs (required for Poe Dameron).

FLIGHT VEST
* The vest is white/off-white (please note, it is optimal if it is slightly distressed and weathered without any visual signs of tearing).
* The vest consists of three parts: (a) an outer/collar vest that wraps around the neck like a life vest and extends down to the lower torso, (b) an inner/under vest that connects to the back panel, and (c) the back panel.

o OUTER/COLLAR VEST:
o On the left panel of the outer/collar vest are 2 horizontal quilted/padded bar sections (each approximately .75"/1.90cm/19.5mm - 1"/2.54cm/25.4mm in height and approximately .25"/.635cm/6.35mm depth, with approximately .25"/.635cm/6.35mm spacing between them). These sections run the width of the vest panel approximately mid-torso. The top edge of the uppermost section should line up with the bottom of the chestbox. On the right panel of the outer vest, there are 7 horizontal quilted/padded bar sections. These start at the shoulder blade and end mid-torso.
o On the left panel of the outer vest there is a black/dark-grey distressed rebel bird on the vest at collarbone height. Also on the left panel of the outer vest, in distressed Aurebesh "Pull to inflate" is written approximately mid torso. It should be black/dark-grey, printed inverted/upside down (so as to be readable by the wearer), and be located immediately above 2 quilted/pad line sections (mentioned above).
o At the bottom of the right front panel of the outer vest there is a black circle (approximately 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm in diameter) which features a black mesh inlay (approximately 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm in diameter).
o The outer vest should have a rolled/quilted/corded edge (approximately .375"/.95cm/9.52mm - .5"/1.27cm/12.7mm) going around the outside edge.
o The outer vest should be padded (approximately .25"/.635 cm/6.35mm - .50"/1.27cm/12/7mm thick) to give it proper body and should extend no further than the width of the shoulder. The collar (also padded) should wrap around the neck (like a life vest/preserver) and lay flat against the back panel. The outer edge should also angle a bit so that it's wider at the shoulder than at the lower edge.
o The front of the vest should have a gap (approximately 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm - 4.5"/11.43cm/114.3cm) at the center of the chest between the sides of the collar portion. The vest clasp and chest box will fill this gap, connecting the two sides of the vest together.

o INNER/UNDER VEST:
o The upper part of the under vest extends horizontally beyond the edge of the collar portion to the shoulder and vertically to where the "Pull to Inflate" graphic appears (approx. mid-torso). This upper part should have quilted/padded bar sections. These sections should be approx. 1"/2.54cm/12.7mm in height with approx. a quarter of an inch spacing between them. These sections run the width of the under vest panel.
o The lower part of the under vest must be of appropriate shape and extends from beneath the front of the collar portion, under the arm, and connects to the back panel. There is a cutout of material between the upper and lower parts which is connected by a 2"/5.08am/50.8mm length of 1"/2.54cm/12.7mm white webbing.
o White bottom edge section of the under vest (nylon/twill tape, approximately 2"/5.08am/50.8mm) attaches to the underside of the bottom of the lower edge of the collar portion of the vest and wraps around the sides of the costumer and continues across the inside of the bottom of the back panel. At the center of the lower back, there is a rectangle detail with a large rectangular stitched X.
o Vest Clasp (made of a hard material with appropriate grey detailing - approximately 7.5"/19.05cm/190.5mm x 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm) should be affixed to both sides of the vest gap. It attaches to the vest by Velcro that extends off to the sides and sticks to Velcro sewn to the underside of the inner vest. The chest box affixes to the upper portion this vest clasp allowing approximately 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm of the clasp to be seen below the chest box.

o BACK PANEL:
o The back panel of the under vest runs from under the vest collar down to mid-lower back (it should NOT reach the belt/harness - you should be able to see a approximately 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm of flight suit between the bottom of the vest and the top of the belt/harness.
o The back panel features 10 quilted/padded bar sections. (This number is approximate based on costumer size.) These sections should be each approximately .75"/1.90cm/19.5mm - 1"/2.54cm/25.4mm in height and approximately .25"/.635cm/6.35mm depth, with approximately .25"/.635cm/6.35mm spacing between them. The length of these sections are all equal, but note that these sections do not run the entire width of the back vest panel, instead stopping short of the edge of the arm hole by 1"/2.54cm/25.4mm at the closest point to the arm hole.
o The arm holes should be scooped in style, not straight from top to bottom.
o The bottom-most quilted/padded bar section should stop approximately 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm - 2.5"/6.35cm/63.5mm from the bottom of the panel.

* OPTIONAL: (required for Poe Dameron and Ello Asty)
o Vest Cargo Pocket/Pouch (made of the same material as the vest. Approximately 6"/15.24cm/152.4mm x 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm x 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm) attached to the lower right undervest panel sidestrap. Its left edge should abut the edge of the lower right collar portion. Top flap of the pouch comes to a downward pointing chevron (not straight across).


CHEST BOX (FreiTek Life Support Unit)
* The box is dirty-white/pale chalky-gray with black recesses and beveled edges. Approximate size is 4.5"/11.43cm/114.3mm wide, 5.5"/13.97cm/139.7mm high, and 2.25"/5.715m/57.15mm deep, with the following details:
* There is a large dark grey rectangle in the center, top 2/3 of the front panel. A little in along the middle right edge is 1 green sheer dot/recessed LED and at the bottom left is 1 raised metal grey disc with a small recessed dot at the center.
* BUTTON DETAILS:
o At the top of the center dark grey section, there are 2 white squares (1"/2.54"25.4mm) side by side with a small gap between them.
o At the top of the right panel, there are 2 bright blue squares (.375"/.95cm/9.52mm) stacked vertically with a small gap between them.
o At the top of the left panel, there are 4 medium grey squares (.375"/.95cm/9.52mm) in a grid pattern with small gaps between them. The bottom 2 buttons each have a small recessed dot in the middle.
* Running around the outsides of the box is a small black recessed channel approximately 1/3 the distance from the back edge of the box.
* At just below the center line of the box a horizontal black channel runs the width of the entire box and continues around the side panel until it abuts the channel running around the outside of the box (see above). There is another black intersecting recessed channel at the left of the box that starts at the bottom of the dark grey panel and wraps around the bottom of the box.
* In the bottom left corner of the box is a slightly recessed dark grey circle.
* Along the top beveled edge is a black recessed trapezoid running 2/3 the width of the chest box. The smaller of the longer edges points toward the front of the box.
* Along the bottom of the box is a .25"/.635cm/6.35mm thick plate, made of the same color and material of the chest box.
* A black corrugated rubber/plastic hose (approximately .75"/2cm/20mm) connects to the bottom right of the plate along the bottom of the chest box and slopes down across the front of the body to terminate between the left pant leg and the chap, or into the top left leg pocket of the flight suit.

FLIGHT HARNESS (Guidenhauser Flight Harness)
* The belt is medium/dark grey in color and is 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm wide. Belt has .125"/.31cm/3.17mm ribs every .25"/.635cm/6.35mm. Belt also has a .125"/.31cm/3.17mm sewn border at the top and bottom edge of the belt. The belt has a roll-pin buckle in the front. (Please note that the rest of the flight harness should be slightly darker than the belt.)
* 2 L-shaped silver/light-grey aluminum paddles hang from the top of the ejection strapping which loops around the belt. The bottom part of the "L" is thicker and shorter than the top part. Paddles appear flat on some pilots and bent-angled in other pictures.
* Features two roll-pin buckles (same as the OT X-wing Pilot Belt) on the front right and left attached to the paddles by 2"/5.08cm/50.8mm wide straps and fastened with 2-4 silver/light-grey rivets/Chicago screws.
* There are small black pull-tabs attached to the bottom of the 2 roll-pin buckles on the harness. (Additional attached to the top of the L-paddles are required for Poe Dameron and Snap Wexley.)
* The back of the belt has an additional strap which hangs down from the back center of the belt to approximately 3"/7.62cm/76.2mm - 4"/10.16cm/101.6mm below the crotch and connects to the ejection leg straps on the backside of the legs.

* OPTIONAL:
o Glie-44 Erliss Ryloth Defense Tech Pistol - accurately modeled and appropriately painted.
o Holster - Black/Charcoal/Dark-Grey molded holster of a hard/stiff material and secured with rivets/Chicago screws and affixed to the belt via a lop of grey webbing/strapping.

SIGNAL FLARES & LEG BANDOLIER
* The bandolier is made out of black/dark-grey seatbelt webbing (darker than the leg strap attached to the flight suit beneath it), with no visible panels (woven stripes).
* The bandolier wraps around the left leg just at the bottom of the knee pocket (required for Poe Dameron, Snap Wexley or Jess Pava) or above just above the right knee.
* 4 - 5 silver/light-grey flares (approximately length 6"/15.24cm/152.4mm) are attached to the bandolier (5 are required for Poe Dameron & Snap Wexley) with loops (similar to the OT X-wing Leg Flares). Flares should be accurately styled with one end having a larger stepped details, and the other a detailed tapered end. (Poe Dameron requires the large ends on the top, Jess Pava requires the larger ends at the bottom, and Snap Wexley's are mixed top and bottom.)
* The flares are facing the front and outside of the leg, with just the strap facing the inside of the leg.

BOOTS (2 Options)
* OPTION 1: (required for Poe Dameron and Jess Pava)
o Boots are gun-metal grey/black rubber and have 3-5 raised ridge lines running down the top of the foot, from the ankle down to abut the toe section (but not running over the toes).
o The soles should be heavy-soled and with a large tread.
o The boots are only visible from the ankle down due to the suit legs being worn outside the boot so uppers may vary.
* OPTION 2: (required for Snap Wexley and Nien Nunb)
o Boots are gun-metal grey/black rubber with what looks like a leather/rubber cover over the front (where laces would normally be) and attach to the boot with 2 straps/cords per side.
o This style boot lacks the toe detailing and foot ridges of Option 1.

GAUNTLETS
* Black leather or padded leather like material.
* There are a couple of models shown on various pilots, all with a mid-length gauntlet cuff.
* Gauntlets have the following details:
* 3 raised strips on the gauntlet cuff facing the outside.
* The thumb has a raised pad on the top of it (2 pads are required for Poe Dameron, one for each portion of the thumb).
* There is a raised square pad on the top of the hand & a raised rectangular strip/pad over the knuckles.
* Each finger has a long, thin, raised strip/pad which is almost the length of the finger.

OPTIONAL: HELMET
* Accurately styled helmet with all hard details (visor, mic, dataport on back lower edge, recessed forehead stripe, ear cups, etc.)
* Appropriate paint scheme (if it doesn't look like it would fit on screen strafing Stormtroopers or Starkiller Base, then don't use it!)




Generic TFA Resistance X-wing Pilot Standard "War Room Variant"
(Required Face Character details interwoven in the Generic description)


This description is exactly the same as the Generic TFA Resistance X-wing Pilot description, minus the following items:
* Flight Vest
* Chest Box
* Optional Blaster/Holster
* Gauntlets

In addition, this costume variant must include the following ADDITIONAL details.
* On right front upper chest at the same height where the zipper meets the collar, there is either a 1"/2.54cm/25.4mm - 2"/5.08cm/50.8 loop made of the same material and color as the flight suit (required for Poe Dameron) or grey 2"/5.08cm/50.8 webbing (required for Snap Wexley).
* On left front upper chest - light-grey/silver TFA Rank badge with appropriate red stripe, rank details, and optional weathering.
* Collar is usually worn open, rather than closed as in the base description.
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