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Chirrut Imwe research and open build thread
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:20 am    Post subject: Chirrut Imwe research and open build thread Reply with quote

Hi all, I thought I would start this thread here as I haven't seen one exclusively dedicated to this character and his costume and props all in one place.

Chirrut was BY FAR my favourite character from the movie. As a life long Star Wars fan, it was also great to see some more ethnic diversity in Rogue One and the Star Wars universe in general. I am currently planning and building his costume and props.

But asides from that, let's get started on the costume and his props!

The Star Wars cardboard standees have some great detailed imagery



Costume displays from Celebration and other events




As far as I can tell from photos so far, I would break the costume down as follows:

Top:
- faded slate blue suede shirt with left ribbed sleeve first
- faded slate blue suede short sleeve jacket with left shoulder revealed (unknown if this is the same on the right shoulder?)
- faded blue outer tunic covering right side of torso and right arm (no inner sleeve inside)
- the back has a strange fabric cape that drapes over the back of the chest belt / bandolier. It has small ties on each side. *I can't tell if it's part of the outer tunic or some separate piece? I thought it might be the left side of the outer tunic draped over for "hot" weather, but it's hard to tell.

Bottom:
- dark blue bloused pants over boots
- dark blue lower leg wraps with at least 2 ties on each leg
- red under skirt that hangs right over left
- dark blue outer asymmetrical skirt that has 3 seams or pleats in the front and side panel or pocket

Footwear:
- Chelsea style boots with ribbed outer sole

Accessories:
- chest belt with 7 belt loops for flares / rod shaped greeblies
- bet hanger mount
- camera accessory
- left arm bicep hoop greeblie
- staff
- lightbow with sling

Close up of his arm detail. The bicep greeblie is quite odd. The ends seems to be attached with some kind of pivot and cable?


Boots. After further research I believe these are slightly modified Cole Haan Lunargrand Chelsea boots.


Great view of the staff and "lightbow"


Close up of the staff. You can also see a close up texture of the fabric of the skirt, which I had a local costume designer / wardrobe person identify as "2x2 basket weave".


Closeup of the bandolier and belt device which I think has already been identified: Sankyo 8-cm 8mm camera. I bought a nice one off ebay. I'm going to mold and cast it with the other side flat and thickness reduced, as it doesn't look as thick as the full camera or perhaps it was cut down.




The upper left jacket is made of suede (per the descriptions at Celebration) with the shoulder detail, 3 pockets on the left chest, and the 3 padded sections on the upper left arm. The lower left arm has approx. 16 visible stitched lines around the arm. They are not pleated folds, they look like ribbon or think webbing sewn on before the arm is sewn together.



Good view of the left "impeller gauntlet". It's 2 parts, the gauntlet itself is attached to the sleeve of the "shirt". The hand plate on top of the hand is held in place with 2 elastics around the wrist / palm area. You can see it in some shots. I'm going to model and 3D print one and rotocast it.


Based on the scene in the movie where Chirrut and Baze follow Jyn into the mountain base at night, you can tell he twists the handles of the bow (the front one is perpendicular to the bow, the rear grip rotates and pulls back) extending the limbs of the bow. Per this diagram, the the rear grip is from a Star Wars universe E-11 Stormtrooper blaster, which we already know is from a Sterling machine gun. I have a genuine grip and stock assembly I can use for my build. I'm guessing the rest was scratch built for the production.

You can see there are gear cogs and a gear rack that move to allow the limbs to extend.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I've found the boots after a few hours of searching.

Cole Haan LunarGrand boots. They are a Chelsea style boot with a Nike Lunarlon sole. I searched on a hunch as my own Nike running shoes have a similar sole.

Unfortunately these are from their spring 2014 collection and came out before then. I can't find any online for sale.

These are 95% accurate. The only different details are the heel and rear upper pull strap, there seems to be an extra panel sewn in. I wonder if the production added these themselves or if they had the manufacturer do it.

My guess is they took the light tan ones with the light colored sole and had darker uppers sewn on or dyed them. There are obviously multiple pairs used in production as I have seen almost new ones displayed with the costume to worn and war torn versions used by Donnie Yen.




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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After taking various images of his staff into photoshop and scaling them to a ruler, I made some interesting discoveries.

I am sure they used different lengths for various stunts etc. as well as different materials.

In some of the promo shots and some fight sequences, the staff is shorter. In particular the one where he's fighting the troopers at Jedha. It looks like they simply cut several inches off the staff at the bottom, after the large "nub".

I found that I am the same height as Donnie Yen! Taking that into account and having the staff stand at about my shoulder height (full length staff version) it measures about 55.5 inches long. Which means the diameter of the wood is only about 1" thick. Its hard to tell but that's what I can make out so far.

I might be able to figure out more once I have the camera belt prop in hand, and maybe I can cross reference and measure the greeblies on the staff.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for your thread - that is lot of nice references!

Looking forward to see your build! Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in looking through reference photos, I found one that shows Chirrut with a cloak or fabric over the left shoulder and arm, covering the suede jacket, left sleeve and "impeller" for the lightbow. I guess the idea is he's in "disguise" as a blind beggar, then whips the cloak off and kicks some arse. Smile

This might be what the fabric thing hung over the bandolier is on his back. But I'm not sure if that is permanently attached to the right side of the jacket or if its an entirely separate garment just attached to the rest of the top.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did some research on the "impeller gauntlet".

I have a 3D model I have purchased and am modifying to be more accurate.

In most photos, I can see 2 different gauntlets. I am sure they had different versions on shoot like most props and costumes.

I have identified an A and a B version. You can ID them from the weathering patterns.

A is a cleaner version, but it also has a little indentation or damage at the wrist end. B is dirtier and has more weathering and wear and tear. There is a lot more weathering on the B elbow rod.

The gauntlet is simply velcroed to the costume, you can see the velcro sewn on the sleeve.

The hand guard is attached to the inside of the sleeve of the jacket, and is secured with an elastic loop around the thumb, and another around the wrist.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NICE REF!!!

So I am working on LightBow... 3D model (now I printing first parts).
I want to achieve mechanical functionality.

https://www.facebook.com/MadeInTitan/photos/a.487282668010251.1073741837.458152797589905/1311764168895426/?type=3&theater
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work! I am currently working on the staff and chest greeblies. I am casting the camera now. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe some models will be easier to alter ...

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1992300

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1904324

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1904306
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Blair! Yes, I saw those but I already have the original used camera in hand. See below!

In this image from the Ultimate Visual Guide book, we can see that the red inner skirt fabric is quite thin. I'm not sure if this is just because of the lighting or perhaps they used a thinner fabric for the stunts, but you can clearly see it lets light through. So it's likely a lightweight cotton weave.


You can also see in the above image, he's wearing "stunt" shoes! He's not wearing the Jedha boots, he's clearly wearing sneakers with black laces. Probably more support for stunts?

Second discovery, the left sleeve is not suede with webbing sewn, it's actually navy leather with suede strips sewn on as the bands. You can see the leather areas have a gloss to it, and you can make out the leather texture. The suede strips are sewn on using contrast colored thread.



I received my original camera for the belt device. in the Ultimate Guide book it's called an "echo box transmitter". So I guess it's like an echo location emitter like Batman uses. Smile

I'm building up a box for it and molding it. I only need to cast the front 3/4 of the camera as the screen used one looks like they did the same thing (one part mold).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I apologize if I hijack your build, but I've done some sketching to visualize the different costume parts. Here are my inputs for the upper body:

First option is how the movie-costume seems to be like (based on your descriptions).


This option will allow for better upper body movements, especially with respect to raising one's arms. But I can't seem to see that the displayed costumes have this construction. (Don't know if this will be approved either?)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:21 pm    Post subject: Progress on 3D printed Lightbow Reply with quote

Hello! New to the Rebel Legion. I am working on a Chirrut costume as well and started with the lightbow. Here is my current progress. The below screenshot was made based on two reference pictures and has since been corrected and improved. What do you think?[img]http://imgur.com/OWmmH6c[/img]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slightly off topic, but who thinks Chirrut should have been given his 'force moment' at the end?



ie:



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at the end when he's tasked with flipping that switch.

--> he should have reached out , and flipped it with the force -- as his first/only time to actually 'USE' the force

(dude could obviously FEEL the force, but he couldn't control it -- I think, to give him his 'force moment', at the end of his life, right before he dies, would be a fitting end to the character's arc -- and tbh, it would just be very gratifying, as a fan of the character) Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy! This thread is *amazing* - thank you so much for starting it!

I'm helping out with my husband's Chirrut build and this has been so helpful. So I thought I'd chirp up and maybe able to return the favor Smile Soft parts are kind of my thing, so I may be able to shed some light on the fabrics. From looking at the stunt pics and comparing them to the display costumes, it really does look like the stunt costume was much lighter weight than the others.

Here's the pattern I used for his pants:


Really, *any* men's pattern for pajama pants will work just fine. The pants are simply tied up at the ankle. It looks a bit like they're gathered but I think it's much simpler than that - they're just bunched up and tied (I suspect they were fuller and someone realized that didn't work so well with the martial arts and so - ta-da! - tie those puppies up).

Here's the fabric we used, first for the pants and the inner tunic/R sleeve/hanging cloak (see note below: they're all the same bit):


Now for the red kama - Cotton *could* work. But I think it may not drape quite right. This was a bit stiffer and I think will handle the extra seams (if you look close the kama has a rectangular base shape with two triangles attached to it) a bit better


For the outer kama, we're using monks cloth. We'll try first to dye it blue but if that doesn't work I'll probably stop being lazy and just order it.

Also - we're pretty certain the "under shirt" on the R shoulder is actually a full tunic (sort of like a tai chi robe) that's off the one shoulder - on the L side that has the half jacket - and then gathered up, folded, and draped behind his back. The ties on it match some of the Tai Chi ties that my hubby has on his long fancy robes for it, and in some of the pics you can just make out the extra sleeve hanging down. I'm starting on his tunic soon, and when I do I'll post pics if that will help.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The suede jacket - Slate blue or super dusty black? Both it and the outer tunic look like a dark grey or dirty black to me.
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