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BigFatCat (Geoff Hawley)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I go back to the snaps on the cheeks of the flightcap for some clarity?

Just had a base member application rejected for not having male snaps on their commercially sourced cap from a known provider. We know the published standard wording is rather vague and there are a variety of original styles of an-h-15. Do we need to add to our proposed wording the requirement for 3 or 4 unobscured male snaps per side in black even if this is a current judging criterion?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigFatCat wrote:
Can I go back to the snaps on the cheeks of the flightcap for some clarity?

Just had a base member application rejected for not having male snaps on their commercially sourced cap from a known provider. We know the published standard wording is rather vague and there are a variety of original styles of an-h-15. Do we need to add to our proposed wording the requirement for 3 or 4 unobscured male snaps per side in black even if this is a current judging criterion?



This is why we keep harping on like old ladies about 'describing the item' rather than only referring to a real world piece of military kit. Then people know whats required.




Sam brought it up a while ago, its in this thread a few pages back - because I had the same thoughts as you Geoff i came and looked, if its a requirement it needs to be clearly written as such.


Sam's post:


I plan on updating the standard with the suggestions I made if no one has any objections, unless Niall is doing it.

If someone else wants to start cropping our screenshots into an Imgur album and linking to the different components that would be excellent.

David, Your idea of discussing and approving item by item is very systematic and sounds like we would get good progress that way.


Here's my updates to the headgear to discuss:

1. HELMET
- Cloth cap: AN-H 15 flight helmet (or replica) with ribbed strip on top.
- Ear pieces: black ovoid rubber or plastic with central foam circle
- Cloth cap cheek areas are covered with darker beige/brown leather-like material and have 4 black male end snap buttons.
- Leather chin strap: connected under either cheek and has a snap closure on the other cheek.
- Armor ring: Dark green rigid "donut" armor. Oblong shape from above. Rear of ring has recessed area with 8-10 vent details approximately 10mm wide. Vents may be painted or indented.
- May have red and yellow insignia on right front quarter or left side or armored ring.
- May have paint chips, dents and other weathering effects on armored ring.
- Cloth-covered bill/visor. May be attached to cloth cap, attached to bottom of donut, or be integral to donut. Bottom of visor should be parallel to the top of the armored ring.

- Helmets are required for humans and humanoids. Those portraying aliens are not required to wear the helmet if it will not fit on the alien head. Other alien-appropriate headgear can be worn instead (Sullustan, Twilek, etc).
- Aliens need not be restricted to those seen wearing this costume in films or games, any Star Wars humanoid alien may be portrayed.

References: https://imgur.com/a/OKNSBF1
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Two boxes approximately 12 inches wide, 8 inches tall, and 5 1/2 inches deep"

Can you please explain how the deepth size was determined? Is it the consensus of 5 1/2 inch deep since no one can find a sutable box? Just asking when I have proof it is what I have mentioned in my post after building many Hardpacks.

Lonescout wrote:
It’s finally safe to say the real world box I have used all these years are close to the original measurements. My box is 12.44width x 8.88 length x 3.63 depth.
The OT box measures 12x8x4. (Studio Creations posted 12x8x4.5 years ago). My source is reliable for the OT measurements. Theirfore the box is not wider and larger than most builds are showing to date.


http://www.forum.rebellegion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13862&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The numbers mentioned are all in a similar range, so if you take a mean value and say approximately, you get a good 25mm range between upper and lower values.

Is there any hard evidence in the public eye of particular values to base considered opinion on and put that in the new standard?

On an overall front, is there anything so far discussed in this thread that needs to be gone over and agreed in order to progress this to completion? I did ask about snaps on the flight cap, so are these 3 male, 4 male or either?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We still have things to rework on this CS. We have to cut the references down in size to only show the items meantioned in each section. We also have to rewrite some wording to described the items in detail instead of mentioning the real word names of the items.
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